Episode 12

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Hey, welcome to Comically Exposed.

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This happens to be episode 12 that you are currently listening to.

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And my name is Gabbie Blachman and my co-host is Heather Nye, who's fabulous.

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We have a very, very special guest, a friend who lives on the other side of the world,

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even though I tell her what.

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And she's brilliant.

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She's funny. She's awesome.

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She has OCD and I'm going to let her introduce herself.

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So introduce yourself, Ege.

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Hi, I'm Ege Öztokatz.

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Thank you for having me.

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Yay.

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Ege and I met over the pandemic.

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No big deal.

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That's also how Heather and I met.

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And it was through UCB improv class, right?

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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401, where we forged a deep lasting bond.

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So Ege has listened to the podcast and had a little feedback, actually,

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about some of the flavors of OCD maybe not being correctly represented here.

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So you want to.

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I love this long pause.

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Yes.

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So please inform.

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I am respectful.

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This is your platform.

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But on the first episode, you were like, oh, contamination OCD is such bullshit.

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Some Hollywood crap.

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Who cares?

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Do you even know someone with contamination OCD?

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All these Hollywood types casting beautiful women.

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I'm sure you said that.

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Washing their hands, being all clean, like Monica on Friends.

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That's stupid.

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That's not OCD.

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Real OCD is intrusive thoughts.

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And I was like, but I get eczema from washing my hands too much.

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I felt erasure.

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I felt oppression.

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And I'm glad that you are giving me a chance to redeem all contamination OCD

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havers.

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Well, I mean, we're giving you that chance.

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It's not going to work, but we are giving you a chance.

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Look, just because we're more mainstream doesn't take it away from us.

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OK, we have the disorder.

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So, yeah, yeah, it's all the same.

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It really is all the same.

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It's just what we do with it is very different.

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Yeah, just because we're more shiny, clean, cute, beautiful.

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Yeah, popular, popular and hot, more educated.

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Everybody's jealous of us.

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These are so textbook OCD contamination stuff.

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I'm so glad you have me to represent the contamination.

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Yeah, because all of those descriptors describe you.

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Yes, they do.

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They do.

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They do, actually.

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OK, so I have some actual questions.

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Well, first of all, thank you for coming on and telling us that you have contamination

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OCD.

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Do you have any other flavors of OCD?

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I have some compulsive behaviors, but not all of them are contamination related.

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I don't know how to articulate necessarily because my diagnosis was more contamination

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based because I got my diagnosis in the pandemic.

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And since I started my medication and I've been doing better, I let go of some of my

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talk therapy.

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Also because my psychiatrist, no, also because my psychologist offended me very deeply.

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Oh, yes.

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She made a joke and I'm the last person who would be offended by a joke.

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But like, are you joking?

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She was like, oh, no, I wasn't joking.

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And I was like, that's even worse.

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And it's too personal.

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I think it's going to be very funny once I am able to say it on a podcast.

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I'll come back in 10 years.

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Oh, dude.

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OK, I started crying.

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Just real quick for the listeners at home, Ege is a stand up comic.

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OK, I have seen her stuff.

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She talks about very personal stuff, so the fact that you don't want to talk about it

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right now is like, holy shit, I wish I could slap this doctor for you.

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It's going to be so funny when I'm able to say it.

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That's how messed up it is.

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Wow.

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I'm sorry that happened to you.

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So I'm not very sure.

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I don't have the vocabulary to describe the flavors yet.

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Well, you know, the truth is, is that the designations of what the different flavors

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of OCD isn't really effective because OCD kind of latches on to things you care about

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the most.

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Yeah, I think sometimes because I fall on the same thing.

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A mind bounces everywhere.

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It's frustrating because you're like, is it enough OCD to call this OCD or, you know,

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and it's really the pattern, you know, the pattern of having an intrusive thought and

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then trying to cover it up with compulsions.

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Cover up the emotions, I should say, the uncomfortable feelings, the, you know, whatever sensation

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that you're feeling that it feels like you can't handle.

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The next step is compulsions to kind of, it's hard because there has been these designations

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of all the flavors, but then, you know, what gets ignored is what happens in your head

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sometimes because I'm sure you have stuff that are compulsions in your head and those

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don't get recognized as well.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I have so much.

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Well, you've come to the right place because we are known for fixing OCD.

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It takes about 20 minutes.

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Of course, that's what you promised me.

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I promised you that in $20 and you're not getting any of them.

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Okay.

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So I do have other questions.

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So you were diagnosed during the pandemic.

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That's intense.

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When did you first notice or yeah, when did you first notice like OCD stuff?

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Were you a kid?

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Was it 20 minutes ago?

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When I was a kid, when I heard the first episode of the podcast, no, when I was a kid, I wasn't

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able to.

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Okay.

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My dad passed and after that I had been very scared of disease because he had cancer and

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I basically watched him like slowly melt away full human.

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And I was a kid.

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I didn't know a lot scientifically.

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So I was scared of everything that would turn me into that.

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I remember I wasn't able to like breathe on my food.

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Like if I have a plate of food in front of me, I would feel like maybe like some germs

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from my nose are going into my food and I'm eating them.

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So like weird.

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And my mother called it being weird.

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Oh no.

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So I kept going.

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I had different like ticks or behaviors, but then in the pandemic it got real because you

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know, contamination, like everybody was washing their bags of chips.

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So it gave me freedom to do the worst I wanted to do.

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And then actually not doing the worst pandemic because I felt so safe and happy in quarantine.

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I was like, this is what I want my entire life.

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But then when I had to go back out, I couldn't.

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So that's when I started seeing a psychiatrist.

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Yeah, that's so intense and makes so much sense.

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Like, yeah, yeah.

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Especially being a kid, just being a kid in general, you have so little control in your

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life and then to go through such an incredible tragedy of losing your parents.

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I'm so sorry, dude.

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It's okay.

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It's main character vibes.

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Dead father, OCD contamination type.

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It's all good.

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Yeah, great.

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And it sounds like you're cured.

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So Gabbie, you did say I am a stand up.

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So I think that's obvious.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Because you're freaking hilarious and will not take any of it seriously.

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So I started back up with my OCD support group over the pandemic.

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And I would say it was probably 75% contamination folks who were just thriving during lockdown

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and also experiencing their greatest nightmare come to pass.

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Because I think across the board, OCD is like, hey, do you know if you just prep for everything

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that could possibly happen in the future, like you're good and all of your loved ones

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are going to be fine too.

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And then quarantine hits and everybody's like, see, see, we're washing our mail, the bags

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of chips and it makes total sense.

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Yeah.

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And then everybody just had just the hardest time coming out.

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So how is it now, like leaving the house?

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It's slightly better.

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But when I'm outside, I'm still very like, if I touch something, I find suspicious.

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I sanitize my hands immediately and stuff.

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It's gotten way better since I started medication.

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The first times I was going out after quarantine was over, it was very harder.

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Now it's better, but I still like have this separation of my house from the outside in

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my head.

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So if my house is contaminated, I'm still very serious about that.

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I did stop washing groceries and stuff way later than most people, but still some stuff

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are just dirty.

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If I touch my wallet, it was dirty.

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I'm not going to touch my sheets after I touch my wallet.

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I think that's fair, but it's gotten better since I started taking my medication.

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I tried to go down on my dose, lower my dose.

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It was really bad.

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And then I called to make an appointment with my psychiatrist to maybe get back to my original

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dose.

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Her assistant told me she's on leave until an unknown time.

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We don't know when she's going to be back.

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So I just went up on my dose anyway, and I feel happier.

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I'm sorry for giggling.

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I just...

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The amount of MacGyvering, the amount of self-advocacy we have to do in order to get the help that

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we need is...

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Why does it happen to people who are going through a mental health crisis?

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Why is it that we're like, well, you seem like you should be in charge of your own health.

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You seem like you should be just out here making decisions and trying to desperately

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get anybody to listen to you.

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That seems like a good call.

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One of my best friends is a mental health professional.

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And when I was diagnosed with OCD and got prescribed the medication, it finally made

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sense in my head.

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I was like, yeah, I kind of knew, but having a doctor validated felt really good.

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And my mental health worker friend, because I'm so good at masking, she was like, oh,

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this is bullshit.

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These doctors give out medication for everything.

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I was like, I don't question your anxiety just because I don't see it.

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And she was really embarrassed.

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I was like, oh my God, how did I do this?

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How did I do this to you?

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It's been happening to me all my life and I did the same to you.

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I was like, yeah, you are an asshole.

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Way to shove it in your friend's face, you know?

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Yeah, exactly.

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Exactly.

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That's what friends are for.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Well, and then especially, I wonder right now, you're just putting a question in my

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head.

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Masking.

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Do you think this is prevalent in more women with OCD or do you think it's across the board

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or gender?

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I think men get to be weird without being stigmatized because they're like, if I have

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a very particular set of rules for guests coming into my home, then I'm weird.

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But if I'm a man, I'm just eccentric.

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Or like a genius or something.

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So we're talking about Elon, right?

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We're all talking about Elon.

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Yeah, when I went over to his house, he made me do some crazy stuff.

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Yeah, I know.

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It's bizarre.

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He's like, wear a towel, but don't use your hands to put it on.

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It's weird.

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No, but seriously, I think it's like, so women probably mask more.

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Societies where whiteness is prized.

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So if you're not white, then you probably have to mask more.

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And I would say richness, right?

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It's always eccentric is the label, the more cash you have.

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And heterosexual, all the things.

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Yeah.

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And it's more accepted, right?

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Yeah, totally.

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Yeah.

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So we fixed it again.

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We fixed society.

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Thank you.

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No problem.

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Oh, hey, do you want to say like where you are, where you live?

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Not your address.

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I'm not saying like...

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Wait, I have to get a pen.

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As long as they follow the house rules, they can come over.

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No towels, no hands.

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No, you just have to sanitize your hands before you touch anything inside my home.

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But if I have a weird feeling about you, it doesn't matter.

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I'm going to clean anyway.

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People have dirty auras, you know, and that gets all over the place.

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It's disgusting.

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Some people don't...

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Okay.

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Some people trigger my OCD more than others.

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And I don't know how it works.

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Some people are just dirtier to me in my head for no reason.

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I have no idea.

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They are dear friends whom I love.

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I just can't.

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I don't know.

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Okay.

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I'm in Istanbul, Turkey.

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Woohoo.

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Woohoo.

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Whoa.

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Okay.

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I just wanted the listener to, you know, geographically place you.

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And now that they have, we're going to switch topics.

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So you've talked a little...

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So you know she can get jailed for something she says on this podcast.

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Moving on.

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Moving on.

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That's right.

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We're going to bleep out all the sensitive information for when we release it in Turkey.

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What is contamination OCD?

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Can you give the folks at home a little...

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I mean, we've talked about it a little bit, but maybe not in general, but for you, are

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there any other triggers that you want to talk about?

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You don't feel forced into saying anything if you don't want to.

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We can cut this whole episode.

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Yeah.

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We can just introduce you and then say your location and that's it.

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I have this bit, what I do in my standup.

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If a guest comes over, I have to keep mental track of every single surface they touch so

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I can clean immediately after they leave.

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But that's not enough because what if they sit on my couch and I don't know how they

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came over?

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Maybe they took a bus to come to my place and they sat on a bus seat right after someone

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who sat on that exact same seat going home from the hospital and they had all sorts of

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hospital germs on their bus.

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My friend's sister comes over, sits on my couch, I take a nap, boom, I die from bus

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seat disease.

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Am I right, ladies?

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So that's like keeping myself, keeping my home.

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If I touch something I think is dirty, I wash my hands immediately.

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I sanitize my hands a lot.

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I did get very serious scars from washing so much in the pandemic and it's still not

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the best in winter, but it's better now.

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And I don't like sharing utensils or glasses.

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It's not that weird.

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But for me, it's more dire if someone, sometimes I'm embarrassed, someone wants to take a sip

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of my water and I'm like, okay, sure.

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And then it's garbage to me after that.

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I think contamination is fascinating contamination of CD because the line between like what's

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just like a healthy understanding of germ theory and staying clean and hygiene and all

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of that.

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And then when does it start to kind of drift into like, oh, my hands are cracked and bleeding

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because I keep washing and sanitizing.

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I once touched the door handle and tried not to wash my hands.

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I lasted like more than a minute.

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Oh, that's pretty good.

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And less than two.

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And then I was freaking out.

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It was terrible, ruined my day.

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And my psychologist was like, no, you do it here.

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You don't do it on your own.

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But then she offended me.

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So I'm not exposing myself right now.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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And especially if a minute, I mean, if a minute's too long, it should be more than like five

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seconds.

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That's my opinion.

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But no, but when you were talking about your trip, I will do it now.

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Great.

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Because we're professionals.

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So you can go ahead and do this.

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And if you have a psychotic break, we can totally help you.

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Well, I mean, and but it's interesting because your string of thoughts that you were just

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saying about things transpire into becoming a serious contamination of like face, but

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bust disease is exactly the way that I like my my intrusive thoughts also kind of come

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in minor more like, I don't know if I can go through that, but not right now.

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Ten years.

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I know.

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But when I had to do an exposure, it was fascinating to be able to handle something after a thought

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process like that.

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And so I don't know if that makes any sense.

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It makes sense in my head.

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Yeah.

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And Gabbie, you were asking if there are others while Heather was thinking, I thought like

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my stuff, anything that goes on with me regarding my health or my mother's health.

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Oh, yeah.

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I get very.

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Oh, yeah.

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Yeah.

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Like I once found a white spot on my tongue and I was like, OK, this is it.

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I'm dying.

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That's fun.

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But that that is way better since medication.

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Dude, shout out to medication, honestly.

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Yeah, seriously.

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Yeah, I know.

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Yeah, we're all big fans because on my little on my little interview card, because this

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is a professional podcast, so I have an interview card.

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I have therapy question mark and then what works question mark.

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So so medication works.

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I'm so freaking glad that you found that.

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I'm so glad that you're on a dose that works.

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I mean, finding a medication that works for you is a whole goddamn process.

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Right.

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And then finding the dose is a whole other process and it takes months.

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And it's just like, again, I don't know.

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Very frustrating, I think, is my to sum up frustration.

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Thanks, Gabbie.

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You're welcome.

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I was I was really happy to have found something that worked for me on my first try.

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But I do have severe side effects, but I don't have the mental strength to change just for

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the side effects because like I'm sweating so much, so much all the time.

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And I am sleeping so much like I shouldn't be able to sleep 17 hours a day like you would

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stop sleeping at one point.

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But it's better than what I was doing before.

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I was awake and freaking out.

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So now, but I don't think my medication is right for me right now.

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But it's you know, I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to try something new in the future.

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I'm going to find the right medication when I'm better.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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So it works.

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Yeah.

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It's good enough.

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Yeah.

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But seriously, if it's the bandaid that's like holding it all together, then, you know,

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keep that bandaid.

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Exactly.

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So if you're not doing exposures, what kind are you doing?

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Any other kinds of therapy?

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No.

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I used to go to talk therapy before my OCD diagnosis, and it was just like very standard.

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She wouldn't say anything.

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I would just talk and talk.

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And we got we hit a wall at our like 10th month together.

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And her solution was a Freudian stream of consciousness therapy.

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And I was like, this is not the 50s.

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Also, I'm an improviser.

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I'm going to manipulate that shit.

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I'm not going to be sincere in my stream of consciousness.

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I'm going to yes and myself.

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So it's going to turn into a weird rant and a study in character work.

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So I didn't really trust it.

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And you know, Freud sexist, whatever.

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And I stopped.

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And then after my OCD diagnosis, I went to I forgot about her.

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OK, I went to the psychiatrist who did play based therapies like role playing.

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And like you are in a group.

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You're role playing in a group.

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Yes.

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Are you sure this wasn't an improv class?

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You are there.

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That's right.

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That's right.

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My friend was our therapist.

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Shout out to Shannon.

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OK, it's like drama therapy, something like that, using theater to expose.

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Like, you know, you are more.

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It felt right to me.

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OK, now that I'm talking about it, it seems like bullshit.

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She had five stars on the app of where I go to get my doctors.

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And then I went to her and I talked about it.

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And she said, oh, you seem like you have OCD and some other stuff.

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She recommended a book.

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And OK, first of all, even before that, the first red flag, she said, why don't you join

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if you're so into comedy, why don't you join Gilder Gilder?

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It's like so bad.

00:24:51
It's not funny at all.

00:24:52
I was like, no, I'm not going to join Gilder Gilder, the Turkish television program that's

00:24:58
been going on for like it's Turkish SNL, but terrible.

00:25:03
Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.

00:25:06
And I was like, it's it's not what I want to do necessarily.

00:25:10
And she was like, oh, I think you're holding yourself back because of fear.

00:25:13
I was like, no, I don't find them funny.

00:25:16
That's not what I want to do in my comedy.

00:25:19
And she was like, well, I think you're resisting.

00:25:22
What do you think is funny then?

00:25:23
And I was like, you won't know them.

00:25:26
Have you heard of club coming?

00:25:30
I didn't think so.

00:25:34
And anyway, she recommended the book.

00:25:37
And I was trying to be open minded despite her terrible taste.

00:25:41
And I went and got the book and basically it was written by an American, but it was a

00:25:50
tale of morality.

00:25:52
Basically if you have any disorders, if you have anxiety, it's just because you're not

00:25:57
moral enough.

00:25:58
Oh my God.

00:25:59
That's amazing.

00:26:00
What?

00:26:01
It's because any sort of disorder, any sort of mental health issue stems from you being

00:26:14
an impure person.

00:26:18
And like it's just your lack of.

00:26:24
Willpower.

00:26:25
Yes.

00:26:26
Like you're weak.

00:26:28
You don't have anxiety.

00:26:29
You're weak.

00:26:30
And if you do good deeds, you're going to be less weak.

00:26:33
And this dude was also, I'm going to send you, I'm going to find and send you the names

00:26:37
of the author.

00:26:39
And I looked him up.

00:26:41
He's also like a motivational speaker for corporations.

00:26:45
So this was like a protestant, like, oh, this is, and you do good deeds and you work really

00:26:52
hard and you make your boss money and then you will be healed.

00:26:57
So that didn't work.

00:27:00
That didn't work.

00:27:03
No.

00:27:04
And then I started, I went to my psychiatrist, she recommended a psychologist who specialize

00:27:13
in cognitive behavior therapy, CBT, and too much homework.

00:27:19
I was still going, but then she offended me very deeply.

00:27:24
And then I stopped and now I don't have the energy to like get in the process of finding

00:27:29
a therapist because then I know now before I find the one, I will get called impure and

00:27:36
morally corrupt.

00:27:38
Yeah.

00:27:39
Yeah.

00:27:40
Wow.

00:27:41
The, again, the struggle to find like a good therapist.

00:27:48
And then also was the person who wrote the book, like OCD, like what is it?

00:27:53
Scrupulosity.

00:27:54
Yeah.

00:27:55
Yeah.

00:27:56
Mm hmm.

00:27:57
A thousand percent.

00:27:58
I was like, your therapist is trying to give you scrupulosity.

00:28:01
Like, you know, that is.

00:28:04
I mean, if it's better than contamination, I'll take it.

00:28:09
Listen, it's not better.

00:28:11
It's just different.

00:28:12
Okay.

00:28:13
Yeah.

00:28:14
Okay.

00:28:15
Okay.

00:28:16
I know.

00:28:17
I already have the good kind.

00:28:18
I have the good kind that's represented in mainstream media.

00:28:21
I mean, if Monk has it and he's just a sex symbol, then the rest of us can only stress.

00:28:30
Monk is a sex symbol.

00:28:31
Listen, I don't know what posters you have up on your wall, but I kiss his photo every

00:28:36
night before I go to bed.

00:28:37
I kiss it 37 times.

00:28:38
It's not a big deal.

00:28:39
It's not OCD.

00:28:40
Yeah.

00:28:41
Now we know Gabbie's type.

00:28:42
It's Tony Shalhoub.

00:28:43
And honestly, would, would hit it.

00:28:44
Would hit it.

00:28:45
He can do it.

00:28:46
He can do it.

00:28:47
It's Tony Shalhoub, Lena Dunham and me.

00:28:55
What Lena Dunham?

00:28:58
Where did she come in?

00:29:00
Yeah.

00:29:01
She had OCD in girls.

00:29:03
Her character had OCD in girls.

00:29:04
I totally forgot.

00:29:05
I want recently, I read an article.

00:29:08
I don't know why people are still talking so much about the TV show girls.

00:29:12
I don't know why it's still so important to people, but I read an essay very recently,

00:29:17
like last week that was like, Lena Dunham really did a good thing by representing OCD

00:29:23
as ugly and not cute.

00:29:29
She didn't glamorize mental illness of women.

00:29:34
She was really ugly and she's a feminist for it.

00:29:38
Oh, geez.

00:29:40
I, there's so much to unpack with that.

00:29:44
I don't even know where to start.

00:29:50
I mean, Lena Dunham is not my favorite, you know, comedy necessarily, whatever, but the

00:29:58
amount of shit that she got by just being a person in her own body.

00:30:03
Yeah.

00:30:05
Yeah.

00:30:06
It's like, must be, must be nice.

00:30:09
Super fun.

00:30:10
It was really fun watching someone way skinnier than me go through that.

00:30:15
Are we talking about monk again?

00:30:16
I hope we're talking about monk.

00:30:19
It's all I want to talk about.

00:30:22
Okay.

00:30:23
I also just very quickly want to say scrupulosity is religious, usually in basis for those who

00:30:32
don't know about OCD.

00:30:34
And it is pretty much exactly what Ege was saying.

00:30:37
It's a morality thing where you feel like it's usually tied to religion.

00:30:43
And I'll say it.

00:30:45
Most of my friends with scrupulosity are Catholics or recovering Catholics.

00:30:51
And there is just like the amount of rules that come with Catholicism really just fits

00:30:57
in with OCD so well.

00:31:00
So if you know, you have an inkling and then you're brought up Catholic, you can really

00:31:03
bring it out.

00:31:04
Yeah.

00:31:05
And that's a painful one too.

00:31:07
Good.

00:31:08
Well, I'm glad I brought it down to a halt.

00:31:14
I can't bring it lower.

00:31:15
Okay.

00:31:16
Let's try it.

00:31:17
Because I was thinking, I was thinking, what if ISIS is that for Muslims?

00:31:25
Oh, yes.

00:31:27
All the rules, man.

00:31:30
But this is my theory.

00:31:32
I swear to God.

00:31:33
I don't know if we talked about it on the podcast.

00:31:34
I think most religion traditions and rituals, those are just OCD people throughout history

00:31:43
trying to shove our weird shit on other people.

00:31:47
Or we're like, do you know what?

00:31:50
God or gods really love this certain hat.

00:31:53
And so everybody's got to wear the hat and we've got to pray facing this way, that way,

00:31:59
all the ways, go get these certain plants and shake them in these directions.

00:32:05
Right.

00:32:06
Get this incense, do this thing, stand up, sit down.

00:32:09
I mean, yeah, Neil, don't eat pork because it's dirty.

00:32:14
Right.

00:32:15
Dude, how about don't mix meat and milk and then get separate plates for that situation.

00:32:22
Nay, get separate kitchens for that situation.

00:32:26
I mean, come on.

00:32:31
That sounds good.

00:32:32
Thank you.

00:32:33
Also, for our listeners don't know, I'm Jewish, so I can say that.

00:32:39
OK.

00:32:41
And I was as a secular Turkish person, I was talking about the pork regarding to Muslims.

00:32:48
So there.

00:32:51
And when I talked about ISIS, that wasn't me.

00:32:54
No, that was the fourth guest.

00:32:58
Yeah.

00:32:59
The unnamed guest.

00:33:00
The unnamed guest.

00:33:01
OK, well, I think we could also like go back and forth for a while.

00:33:05
I'm like, what kind of side effects did you get from your medication?

00:33:09
And talk about that for a while.

00:33:11
But I actually want to transition into comedy because you are a comedy great.

00:33:18
And I want to talk about so many, many things.

00:33:22
Number one, I just want to say improvising with a gay is such a treat and we only do

00:33:27
it over Zoom.

00:33:29
And yet it is still so goddamn funny and amazing.

00:33:33
You are so quick and so fucking funny.

00:33:36
And I miss us doing that.

00:33:37
So that's just a guilt trip that I'm putting on you.

00:33:41
And number two, can you talk about stand up?

00:33:45
When did you get into it?

00:33:47
How's it going?

00:33:48
What's up?

00:33:49
Gabbie, thank you so much.

00:33:50
I love doing improv with you and interrupting you always all the time.

00:33:54
Yes, please do.

00:33:57
I want to blame Zoom, but I just like interrupting people.

00:34:01
Sorry.

00:34:02
You should have interrupted me when you said that.

00:34:08
Not to note it.

00:34:09
OK, please.

00:34:10
OK, I stand up.

00:34:13
OK, I did improv.

00:34:15
I started improv because I really love UCB style comics.

00:34:19
I listen to a lot of comedy bang bang.

00:34:21
I was really interested in improv.

00:34:23
We don't have UCB and long form is like it means boring in Turkish improv and they don't

00:34:29
get it.

00:34:30
And anyway, I did short form improv with my group until the pandemic and in the pandemic.

00:34:36
Before the pandemic, I tried to go to Chicago to take some classes at Second City one summer

00:34:42
and I was denied a visa.

00:34:44
This was the Trump years and Turkey was on the shit list.

00:34:48
Yes, so I was denied a visa and then pandemic happened and I was able to take UCB classes

00:34:54
and something clicked like I was like, oh, these people understand where I'm going when

00:35:00
I start my sentence.

00:35:02
And sometimes with my Turkish group, even though we are from the same culture and we

00:35:07
speak the same language, sometimes they don't like see or understand where I'm going or

00:35:13
they I don't.

00:35:15
It was like I clicked way better in English.

00:35:18
So after improv classes wrapped, I didn't have any one like Gabbie here to do improv

00:35:25
with.

00:35:26
So I decided, you know what, I think I'm good at English.

00:35:29
I'm going to try an English open mic for stand up.

00:35:32
And before I went, I checked with Gabbie.

00:35:35
Is this funny or terrible?

00:35:38
Like my first two months I was sending Gabbie everything I was writing, seeing like, is

00:35:45
this nothing or is it like slightly funny?

00:35:48
If it's slightly funny, I'll go for it.

00:35:50
And turns out I it worked and I started doing stand up last year in August.

00:35:57
So a year and a half now.

00:36:02
And I do not in Turkish, but my I have like an hour and a half worth like long material

00:36:09
in English, but only like 20, 25 in Turkish because Turkish people are more like, what

00:36:15
is this?

00:36:17
OK, I just want to say when you first started sending me stuff and you were like, I think

00:36:25
I'm going to try stand up.

00:36:27
I was like, holy shit, this stuff is so funny.

00:36:30
If you don't get on that stage, I'm going to be personally angry.

00:36:34
I'm so glad that you do it.

00:36:36
And then you and I have talked about, too, about how English is your humor language,

00:36:40
right?

00:36:41
I think so.

00:36:42
Yes.

00:36:43
It's fascinating.

00:36:45
Yeah, it is fascinating.

00:36:47
So I know you've been doing stand up and you're quite successful.

00:36:51
I believe that you won like Comic of the Night like pretty early on.

00:36:57
Yeah, they give out awards for the best open mic and I.

00:37:01
OK, now I do like my solo show, but I still want the record.

00:37:07
I want to be the record holder.

00:37:09
So like I'm the MC one week and the next week I'm like, I want the award now because there's

00:37:16
a very funny Syrian kid who started and he has very funny jokes.

00:37:20
And I'm like, he's coming for my award.

00:37:22
I'm going to take it.

00:37:24
And I do my I did my first hour long show.

00:37:30
We had a split show with a great American comic in December last year.

00:37:37
So like five, six months after I started.

00:37:40
And then this year I started doing my solo show and hopefully I will try if there is

00:37:47
no weird visa issues or Turkey's shutdown or something or if Turkey doesn't exist or

00:37:53
something.

00:37:54
I don't know.

00:37:55
You never know.

00:37:56
Unless there's an issue, I want to take my solo show to Edinburgh.

00:37:58
And it's also very it's also about basically what we are talking about here is called anti-depressed

00:38:06
because I was only able to do stand up after I started the medication.

00:38:12
And also it's a lot about OCD behaviors like anxiety is just what's going on inside my

00:38:17
head.

00:38:18
And Gabbie, are you doing more stand up recently?

00:38:21
I know you did a couple.

00:38:24
OK, first of all, I want to say seamless transition, Ege, because I wanted to talk about your one

00:38:32
woman show and I'm I'm so excited for it to go to Edinburgh or like anywhere.

00:38:39
I just want to see it.

00:38:41
So that's exciting.

00:38:43
And stand up.

00:38:45
I would love to try it again.

00:38:47
But my tutoring hours make it so I can't go to any open mics during the week.

00:38:56
And then the only open mic that happens on the weekends in my area is at this theater

00:39:02
in Oakland, which I've talked about before.

00:39:05
My car got broken into.

00:39:07
And then the next time that I went, I was almost in a shooting incident.

00:39:10
So I haven't gone back.

00:39:13
But I would love to try a stand up again.

00:39:15
Just got to get on that.

00:39:18
And are you writing more sketches?

00:39:20
Also can I say as a listener of the podcast Fox Sketch Fest?

00:39:24
Hey, yes, Fox Sketch Fest.

00:39:29
I'm assuming that's what the listeners are doing is just chanting it over and over again.

00:39:33
Of course.

00:39:34
Yeah.

00:39:35
What a bunch of are you writing more sketches?

00:39:36
I want to watch Nutsisters so badly.

00:39:40
Hey.

00:39:41
Oh, yeah.

00:39:42
Yeah.

00:39:43
I don't know.

00:39:44
We should talk to Susan or I mean, you could also be in that sister if you want to.

00:39:48
Yes, you definitely could.

00:39:50
I know we have to come up with something.

00:39:53
Another goal, because otherwise we're just like, hey, how's it going?

00:39:58
I'm good.

00:39:59
How are you?

00:40:00
Free floating.

00:40:01
Yeah.

00:40:02
Well, I haven't been writing a ton of sketch, which is a bummer.

00:40:05
But I also feel like my life is not super interesting at the moment.

00:40:12
I'm just not feeling like I'm interacting with people enough to write sketch, I guess,

00:40:18
which is probably just a cop out.

00:40:19
Yeah, that's a cop out.

00:40:21
OK, all right.

00:40:23
But Heather shared a sketch a couple of weeks ago, the hot dog sketch.

00:40:29
Oh, the corn dog.

00:40:30
Oh, my God.

00:40:32
I nearly peed myself.

00:40:35
It is so goddamn funny.

00:40:37
This one here, the sketches.

00:40:39
Yeah.

00:40:40
See, she's deflecting.

00:40:41
She's not talking about herself right now.

00:40:43
She's telling me how awesome I am by not talking about anything.

00:40:48
Yeah.

00:40:49
Gabbie, you know what?

00:40:50
What?

00:40:51
It's funny.

00:40:52
Anyway.

00:40:53
We'll stare at Gabbie.

00:40:54
She's going to cry.

00:40:55
Gabbie, you're so funny.

00:40:58
Oh, I think my dog needs me.

00:41:05
Oh, was that my phone?

00:41:08
Yeah, exactly.

00:41:09
I got to go.

00:41:10
I got to go.

00:41:11
I know.

00:41:12
Yeah.

00:41:13
So I would like to be doing more comedy stuff.

00:41:17
How about that?

00:41:18
Yes.

00:41:19
And I appreciate you guys saying that stuff.

00:41:20
I do think that I'm funny.

00:41:22
Fuck San Francisco Sketch Fest.

00:41:25
It's going on right now.

00:41:26
I have friends in it, but fuck it.

00:41:29
All my favorite comics, but still fuck it.

00:41:32
Number two, fuck the late night podcast show that sucks.

00:41:37
Thank you.

00:41:39
I appreciate it.

00:41:41
It's not good anyway.

00:41:43
We all know it.

00:41:44
It's so bad.

00:41:45
But it's like being rejected by somebody that you're like, oh, this person is really smelly

00:41:56
and they're very mean to everyone.

00:41:59
And I don't like anything about them or their lifestyle or anything.

00:42:06
But then you ask them out anyway and they say, no, thank you.

00:42:11
And you're like, that hurt.

00:42:15
That happens to me so much because I pick someone ugly that I'm not attracted to just

00:42:20
because I think it will be easier and I will feel safer.

00:42:23
And then they're not chasing me like they should because they're an ugly gross person.

00:42:30
It's the worst blow to the ego.

00:42:33
It's like that time when my stalker dumped me and started stalking someone else.

00:42:36
I was like, what the fuck?

00:42:39
Okay.

00:42:40
I'm so sorry.

00:42:44
Number one, brilliant joke.

00:42:46
Fucking brilliant joke.

00:42:47
But number two, I'm sorry you had a stalker.

00:42:51
No big deal.

00:42:53
I was in high school.

00:42:56
Oh my God, dude.

00:42:57
He's the CEO of a dog walking company now.

00:43:00
Does he use the dog walking as a cover to fucking stalk people?

00:43:04
Of course.

00:43:05
He has access to people's homes now, not mine.

00:43:08
He doesn't care about me.

00:43:10
Listen, he's going to stalk you again.

00:43:13
I swear to God, you just know if you just buy that new hair product, he's totally going

00:43:18
to stalk you again.

00:43:19
I don't think so.

00:43:20
It's been 10 years.

00:43:21
He's not coming back.

00:43:22
Fucking.

00:43:23
Oh, I was going to before you had said the gender of the stalker, I was like, let me

00:43:32
guess.

00:43:33
Imagine having a female stalker.

00:43:39
She would be so helpful.

00:43:44
Not to say women can't be stalkers.

00:43:46
Girls, you can be anything.

00:43:49
Of course.

00:43:50
Lean in.

00:43:51
OK, also, you are.

00:43:57
Have you been writing sketch at all?

00:43:59
No.

00:44:00
Also, by the way, I do have a question for the two of you if I'm allowed.

00:44:06
No, no.

00:44:08
I've been going through kind of a writer's.

00:44:11
OK, sorry.

00:44:13
No, please, please, please.

00:44:16
Please ask.

00:44:18
I do.

00:44:19
I've been having difficulty writing new material.

00:44:23
Do you have any exercises for when you are experiencing writer's block?

00:44:27
Oh, I'm going to go to Heather on this.

00:44:31
Well, so sometimes when I have when I have writer's block or if I'm being self critical

00:44:38
because that's really what it is for me is I go to prompts online.

00:44:44
I'll go to a word generator or whatever and then just base something off of that.

00:44:49
The other exercise is just free writing.

00:44:52
I do free writing.

00:44:53
I mean, this these sound boring, but but really like I literally free write and then something

00:44:59
comes out of it that is either funny or on the verge of something, you know, that happened.

00:45:08
And yeah, and sometimes I'm just inspired by things that just happened.

00:45:11
It's usually thinking about like weird conversations like writing.

00:45:15
The corndog sketch was actually somebody on Twitter that I followed had written something

00:45:23
about an interaction they had with somebody in the parking lot with a corndog.

00:45:28
And from there, I just kind of went and I wrote something out of it.

00:45:32
And so that took it to the next level.

00:45:36
Sometimes when you're feeling uninspired, you could find inspiration from within or outside

00:45:43
of you.

00:45:44
That's the sound.

00:45:45
I think I need to.

00:45:46
I need to find someone on the outside, some stuff on the outside to draw from, because

00:45:54
I already talked about all of my mental issues.

00:45:58
I don't have any new ones.

00:46:01
And I tried morning pages.

00:46:03
It's just a list of my anxieties.

00:46:05
Not in a fun way.

00:46:07
It's just like, oh, shit, I have to leave the house today.

00:46:11
Oh, shit, I have to leave the house today again.

00:46:13
And just like you can see the effort in trying to fill the three pages.

00:46:19
And I tried to work with AI.

00:46:22
I went to chat GPT and I wanted him to write him.

00:46:27
Women can be.

00:46:34
I think chat GPT is male.

00:46:36
OK, but I tried.

00:46:39
I tried to get it to write jokes so I could be like, oh, this is not a joke.

00:46:44
Fuck you, I'm going to do better.

00:46:46
That was the logic behind me turning to AI.

00:46:49
It didn't inspire at all, but it was a really terrible.

00:46:52
Well, you know, you know what I did?

00:46:57
You know what I did once?

00:46:58
I'm just you're just I'm remembering something that actually helped me generate ideas.

00:47:04
At least this was for sketch.

00:47:05
I had random titles for sketches that I would draw from like a bag and then I would write

00:47:13
a sketch in 30 minutes.

00:47:14
And so it was I called it 30 30 30.

00:47:18
So I wrote 30 sketches in 30 days for 30 minutes at a time.

00:47:22
Oh, so good.

00:47:23
OK, I'll try.

00:47:24
And then what I did was I went to Instagram to all my comedy friends and said, give me

00:47:29
a title, like just give me a title, like whatever.

00:47:32
And then there was also I can give you the title.

00:47:35
I'll find out what the title generator was that I used.

00:47:38
But it was like for novels or whatever.

00:47:39
But it was it was really weird.

00:47:41
Like there are some really weird titles that I got from it.

00:47:44
And I was like, OK, this is what the sketch and it was literally I had no time to think.

00:47:51
I just had to write.

00:47:53
And I actually had a couple more than a couple sketches that came out of it that I was able

00:48:00
to develop.

00:48:01
So yeah, some really good ones, too.

00:48:04
That sounds great.

00:48:06
Thank you.

00:48:07
I'd like to give my advice to thanks.

00:48:09
Thanks.

00:48:10
Please don't walk away from this.

00:48:13
OK, so my advice is, you know, I have the notes app, not to brag, but I

00:48:19
do.

00:48:22
And you know, whenever something funny strikes me, I write it down.

00:48:26
So then when I get writer's block, I'll go to the notes app and I'll scroll through and

00:48:31
I'll be like, holy shit, there are some brilliant ideas in here.

00:48:35
And then I'll get overwhelmed and I won't write a thing.

00:48:38
So big recommend.

00:48:43
I tried.

00:48:44
I tried the notes app, but new stuff is boring and old stuff doesn't make sense.

00:48:50
I can't figure out what I meant.

00:48:52
Yes.

00:48:53
When I wrote down like tablecloth tablecloth disco, I don't know what that means.

00:48:58
I have no idea.

00:49:00
And my last note is about Israel and Hamas.

00:49:04
And I'm like, I'm not going to do that.

00:49:08
Say it on the podcast.

00:49:11
It's not about Israel and Hamas.

00:49:15
It's not.

00:49:16
It just uses the words.

00:49:18
Yeah, it just it's nothing.

00:49:20
OK, see, this is unusable.

00:49:22
I want to be with him when the earthquake hits Istanbul.

00:49:25
OK, we're expecting a big earthquake.

00:49:29
And I was at a France house with a bunch of comics and there was a small earthquake and

00:49:35
we were all freaking out because there was a big earthquake last February and we were

00:49:40
all freaking out.

00:49:41
I was like, I don't know you with these people.

00:49:43
I want to be with someone special.

00:49:45
Like I want to share my tents with someone I like, but I can't do that.

00:49:51
I think you can.

00:49:52
And I also think that you should say it at a stand up night where all of those comics

00:49:57
are present, name them by name and say would not be with you in an earthquake.

00:50:04
I told them in person.

00:50:06
As it was happening, as we were evacuating, I was like, I don't want to die with you.

00:50:15
You suck, you suck, you suck, you suck.

00:50:20
You know, I living in California, I guess, you know, we get earthquakes all the time

00:50:25
and a big one is supposed to come and, you know, like swallow the whole state or whatever.

00:50:29
That's science.

00:50:30
Do your own research.

00:50:31
But yeah, I definitely I don't know if a stand up comic is who I'd want to be in an emergency

00:50:36
situation with so much as like a doomsday prepper who's probably like full MAGA or whatever.

00:50:43
But you know, they've got like a bunker to die for.

00:50:48
So I just, you know, but Gabbie, I would be in the earthquake with you.

00:50:53
I would be in an earthquake with you.

00:50:55
It would be really fun.

00:50:56
We would die together.

00:50:58
Just laughing.

00:50:59
Yeah.

00:51:00
I would be like, what?

00:51:01
I'm going to die now.

00:51:02
OK.

00:51:03
Or even better, we both survive, but slowly run out of our medication.

00:51:14
It becomes survivor with medication.

00:51:16
That's exactly.

00:51:18
Oh, shit.

00:51:21
You have your own podcast, right?

00:51:23
Yes.

00:51:24
And let me tell you just real quick, my biggest criticism of the podcast.

00:51:29
I can't understand it because I don't speak the language.

00:51:35
Americans not learning Turkish.

00:51:39
Classic.

00:51:40
Well, the opportunity was there in school.

00:51:43
It was like French, Spanish, German, Turkish.

00:51:48
Yeah.

00:51:50
And living in California, I obviously went with French, which has done me no goddamn

00:51:56
favors.

00:51:57
I can't speak it.

00:51:58
I am currently tutoring somebody who takes their classes in French, so I'm trying to

00:52:03
teach them math.

00:52:04
But in French, it's fabulous.

00:52:07
It is so frustrating.

00:52:10
Anyway, back to your podcast.

00:52:13
I'm sure it's great.

00:52:16
Thank you.

00:52:18
But seriously, what are you going to do for the Americans?

00:52:23
Because I would just love it if all countries and people on this planet could understand

00:52:28
that America is number one and we're your biggest demographic.

00:52:35
So we just put our US stamp on everything.

00:52:39
You speak English here.

00:52:40
Yes, you speak English.

00:52:42
And also, can you do the podcast while holding a gun?

00:52:45
Because that would make it more American.

00:52:48
Yeah.

00:52:49
Are you not seeing the bikini I'm wearing?

00:52:52
The flag.

00:52:53
Yes, I did see that.

00:52:55
Okay.

00:52:56
Okay.

00:52:57
That's patriotic.

00:52:58
And with the American flag in the background.

00:52:59
And look at the bot.

00:53:00
That's good, too.

00:53:01
Look at the bot part.

00:53:03
It's the bad flag.

00:53:05
That's how American I am.

00:53:07
Yes.

00:53:08
It's either the thin blue line flag or the MAGA flag.

00:53:13
The Confederate.

00:53:14
I also want to say that your tramp stamp of Trump is gorgeous.

00:53:21
Stunning.

00:53:22
They put every hair in the right place.

00:53:27
And he's making that little puckery thing with his mouth where it looks like a sphincter.

00:53:32
Hot, dude.

00:53:34
Hot.

00:53:35
Guys must go crazy for that.

00:53:36
And it's so orange.

00:53:37
So orange.

00:53:38
I didn't even know they could tattoo in that color.

00:53:43
That's amazing.

00:53:44
Yeah, it is amazing.

00:53:46
I said it before.

00:53:47
I'll say it again.

00:53:48
I'll marry you in a second.

00:53:49
Come get American citizenship.

00:53:51
Get over here and let's start our comedic journey together.

00:53:56
I really want to move to the US.

00:53:57
I think in two years I have a plan to be an immigrant.

00:54:04
Yay.

00:54:05
Okay.

00:54:06
Are you still planning to move to the wrong coast, though?

00:54:09
You still planning on New York?

00:54:12
Which by the way, New Yorker comics in New York.

00:54:15
Are you kidding?

00:54:16
It is not a town known for its New York.

00:54:19
I know.

00:54:20
I know.

00:54:21
I heard it's really boring.

00:54:26
No alternative stages.

00:54:28
Just two guys.

00:54:31
Just that.

00:54:32
Yep.

00:54:33
Just two guys.

00:54:34
They have a microphone.

00:54:35
They're quote unquote podcasting.

00:54:36
Like in Turkey.

00:54:39
Great.

00:54:40
You mean West Coast is the best coast?

00:54:45
I do.

00:54:47
But I really mean, will you please move to LA with me?

00:54:50
I don't want to move to LA and I would really like a friend.

00:54:55
I will move to which states has a university that will allow me to do a PhD.

00:55:04
We have so...

00:55:05
Okay.

00:55:06
California, I think has some of the most colleges out of all the states.

00:55:12
UCLA.

00:55:13
Yeah.

00:55:14
Bam.

00:55:15
Tennessee, Berkeley, Pepperdine.

00:55:19
Too north.

00:55:21
Yeah.

00:55:22
Right, right, right.

00:55:26
Riverside.

00:55:27
State schools.

00:55:28
Long Beach.

00:55:29
I mean, listen, what are you trying to put on airs here?

00:55:32
It's got to be like Harvey Mudd or something like that.

00:55:37
There are lesser schools.

00:55:39
I really petered out on that one.

00:55:45
I don't know where it's from.

00:55:50
I didn't know if those were real schools or you were doing a bit.

00:55:58
I am like 85% sure those were real schools.

00:56:06
Pepperdine is a real thing.

00:56:08
Yeah.

00:56:09
And it's in LA-ish.

00:56:10
So there you go.

00:56:13
I think they do psychology, maybe law.

00:56:17
Why are we talking about this?

00:56:23
Pepperdine hasn't paid me in so many years.

00:56:28
And I have been nothing but the best ambassador on their behalf where I tell people they're

00:56:35
a school.

00:56:36
They have programs.

00:56:37
That's their branding.

00:56:41
We're a school.

00:56:45
Yeah, question mark.

00:56:48
Yeah, man.

00:56:51
Well, yeah.

00:56:53
I was about to go into the visa process, the immigrant experience.

00:56:59
I was like, oh, I am unqualified to be talking about this.

00:57:06
The podcast just takes a real turn, goes full political.

00:57:10
Or you're like, don't come to America.

00:57:13
We have enough immigrants.

00:57:15
No.

00:57:16
Yes, that's my standing because my grandparents came to this country and they should have

00:57:22
been the last immigrants allowed in this country.

00:57:29
Pull up the ladder after you get in.

00:57:31
That's my motto.

00:57:33
Okay.

00:57:35
So that's dead air.

00:57:39
Okay.

00:57:40
So, oh, I wanted to talk to you about the Edinburgh process.

00:57:45
So are you trying to go this year or are you thinking 25 this year?

00:57:51
This year?

00:57:52
Yes.

00:57:53
Yes.

00:57:54
I signed the contract with a venue.

00:57:56
I'm going to do a full run.

00:57:58
Holy shit.

00:57:59
Oh my God.

00:58:00
This is amazing.

00:58:01
How long is it?

00:58:02
Three weeks.

00:58:03
Holy shit, dude.

00:58:04
I am so impressed.

00:58:07
Do you need a PA?

00:58:09
Why don't you come to Edinburgh and do a run?

00:58:14
Their registrations are still open.

00:58:17
Really?

00:58:18
Yeah.

00:58:19
All right.

00:58:20
Now I have to come up with something though.

00:58:21
Okay.

00:58:22
Do you know the dates that you're going to be in Edinburgh?

00:58:24
Because we have like five people that listen to this podcast and you're one of them, but

00:58:29
I'm sure that we could get some tickets going.

00:58:32
So when are you going to be there?

00:58:34
In August, all August throughout the festival, I will do a full run every day except for

00:58:41
Sundays.

00:58:42
Yeah.

00:58:43
I'm going to do anti-depressed and watch a lot of shows if I get a visa.

00:58:48
I did sign my contract, but I still need to apply for the visa.

00:58:53
And before I do that, I want to try to register to the official fringe registry so I can get

00:59:01
an invitation from them as well, not just the venue stating that they are coming to

00:59:07
perform not to steal our jobs or whatever they do.

00:59:14
Yeah.

00:59:16
That's classic steal our job stuff.

00:59:18
Coming in here, putting on a one woman show when there are so many people that would love

00:59:24
that job.

00:59:25
When there are so many women that want a one woman show.

00:59:28
And who have your exact life experience and want to talk about it on stage.

00:59:35
What do I think?

00:59:36
The Scottish women don't have enough OCD.

00:59:39
I'm wrong.

00:59:40
That's right.

00:59:41
That's right.

00:59:42
Thank you for saying it.

00:59:43
That's a first step.

00:59:44
Stolen valor.

00:59:45
Okay.

00:59:46
So the show title is Anti-depressed.

00:59:51
You're going to be there for all of August.

00:59:55
You should go check it out listeners.

00:59:58
I really want to go.

01:00:00
This is so exciting, dude.

01:00:02
Is there anything that we can do to help you get a visa?

01:00:04
Do you want us to sign something?

01:00:06
We're Americans.

01:00:07
Did I not say that?

01:00:10
Yeah.

01:00:13
Do you want to sign doctor's note for me?

01:00:15
Yeah.

01:00:16
Like she's okay.

01:00:17
Signed an American.

01:00:20
That's it.

01:00:21
You know, done.

01:00:22
I've talked to her in Zoom for like over two years now.

01:00:27
She haven't talked about blowing anything up unless the scene called for it.

01:00:32
Yes.

01:00:33
Yes.

01:00:34
Yes.

01:00:35
Yeah.

01:00:36
Only in space work, mime work, does she blow things up.

01:00:40
And then I say, quote, she's one of the good ones.

01:00:44
And then I sign it an American.

01:00:49
You say like, okay, I know Turkey.

01:00:52
I know where Turkey is, but like she's quite white.

01:00:56
Yeah.

01:00:57
Nailed it, dude.

01:00:58
That's yes.

01:00:59
And do you know how many emails I sign off as she's quite white, comma, Gabbie.

01:01:18
You know, so far it's got me putting on a few lists, but I see that as a point of pride.

01:01:26
Okay.

01:01:27
Any last thoughts about OCD comedy?

01:01:31
You want to ask us like a million questions because you're obviously a super fan.

01:01:35
Thank you so much for having me.

01:01:37
Hey, that's a wrap up right there.

01:01:40
That is a wrap up.

01:01:42
Well, yeah, thank you for coming.

01:01:45
And sorry, I didn't mean to step on your lines, Heather.

01:01:49
No, no, no, no, no, you go.

01:01:51
Okay.

01:01:52
Okay, will you tell the people, you know, Instagram, social media, is there any place

01:01:59
that you want them to come see your brilliance?

01:02:02
Sure.

01:02:03
You can follow me on Instagram at a go E G E O E.

01:02:09
And I do English stand up shows in Istanbul if anyone visits Istanbul at any time.

01:02:17
If any of the four other listeners than myself of the podcast are Turkish speakers, they

01:02:26
can read my book and listen to my podcast.

01:02:32
And see you in Etterborough.

01:02:36
Follow Gabbie and Heather too because they're so funny.

01:02:41
Nice try.

01:02:42
Nice fucking try.

01:02:44
Okay, that's right.

01:02:46
We didn't even get into your book.

01:02:47
And also, truly, I am still upset that it is not in English.

01:02:52
I know that I get it.

01:02:55
I hear myself.

01:02:56
It's ridiculous that I only speak English, but I would love to read your book.

01:03:00
Okay.

01:03:01
I just want to thank you so much for being our absolute first guest on the podcast.

01:03:06
Thank you for being.

01:03:07
Yeah, Susan.

01:03:08
Yeah, Kelsey.

01:03:09
Name names, dude.

01:03:10
That's right.

01:03:11
Yeah, Taylor Swift's cousin we took two weeks of improv with.

01:03:20
Right.

01:03:21
That's right, dude.

01:03:22
Oh, she was awesome.

01:03:23
The cousin.

01:03:24
Haven't met Taylor Swift in person yet.

01:03:25
Yet.

01:03:26
Yet.

01:03:27
But you've been an amazing first guest and thank you for being so honest and open about

01:03:41
OCD and how that's been really fun for you.

01:03:47
Yeah, this has been great.

01:03:51
I appreciate it.

01:03:52
I think everybody now realizes that people with contamination are better people.

01:03:57
Yeah.

01:03:58
Yeah, in every way.

01:04:00
In every way.

01:04:01
Yeah.

01:04:02
I think we could.

01:04:03
And hot.

01:04:04
And hot.

01:04:05
And hot.

01:04:06
And hot.

01:04:07
And hot.

01:04:08
Yes.

01:04:09
And I'm listening to your sexy, sexy voice.

01:04:11
They know how high you are.

01:04:15
So I'm excited for us to put up the list of which OCDs are the best, which ones are

01:04:20
legitimate and which ones are just, you know, in people's head and they're just making

01:04:25
them up for attention.

01:04:27
So yeah, man.

01:04:32
Thank you.

01:04:33
Thank you.

01:04:34
Thank you.

01:04:35
Thank you.

01:04:36
Yeah.

01:04:37
Bye.

01:04:38
Bye, everyone.

01:04:39
Bye, everybody.

01:04:41
This is the end of the pod.

01:04:42
It is the end of the pod.

01:04:43
Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

01:04:44
Bye.

01:04:45
Welcome to the end of the show.

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01:04:53
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01:04:54
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01:04:57
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01:05:02
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01:05:31
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01:05:32
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01:05:36
Okay, until next time.

01:05:38
Ta-da for ta-da.

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Bye.

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