Episode 24

[00:00:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Hi everyone, welcome to Comically Exposed Episode 24.

[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_00]: We are a podcast about solving crimes of humanity from OCD and we talk comedy too.

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_00]: So I am one of your hosts, Heather Nye.

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_00]: And my other very talented special host is Gabbie Blachman, uncomfortable with the compliments.

[00:00:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is a special edition because we have a very talented comedian, writer, editor, you know, that's Los Angeles based.

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_00]: He's part of the sketch team Redacted, which is the name not some sort of secret code for something.

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Every second Wednesday at the Pac Theater in Los Angeles at 9 p.m.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_00]: So welcome Winston Carter.

[00:01:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, happy to be here.

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for having me.

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, welcome, welcome, welcome my friend.

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It's nice to meet you.

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, thank you.

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Nice to meet y'all.

[00:01:13] [SPEAKER_03]: It's gonna be I'm literally the second I started talking.

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, oh now I'm so anxious.

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh no, like at all.

[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Good.

[00:01:21] [SPEAKER_01]: If any one of us figures out what to do with our hands during the podcast legally they have to tell the other person.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: So I just have questions right off the bat.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Here we go.

[00:01:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So your sketch group Redacted.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: How did you all meet and how long ago was that?

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so we were put together.

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_03]: We're a house team at the Pac Theater.

[00:01:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So there were open auditions.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_03]: This was the first round of teams post pandemic.

[00:01:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that right?

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's right.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure that's right.

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's a bunch of people believe you.

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm just gonna say it's history.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, the Pac Theater in LA had before had auditions that were required taking classes at post pandemic obviously with everything being crazy.

[00:02:10] [SPEAKER_03]: They were like, we're gonna throw that out the window.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So anybody can audition.

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_03]: They have a really great audition format which is you do a cold read of a sketch.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_03]: They like you submit a packet and they read that in a video and then you get brought in for cold reading a sketch with like random people in front of a small group.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_03]: And then the second half of the in person is you have a minute to make people laugh in front of a real crowd and there are judges in the crowd.

[00:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's also you can pack it with friends.

[00:02:37] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a great show.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_03]: It's such a fun show to do.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then we got put together and yeah, we've had some changes up some slight changes here and there people leaving people being added.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, we've been together for two years.

[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's been great.

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that is so cool.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_01]: That's fantastic.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: That's good.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_01]: What is your guys writing process like like does each person bring a sketch to it?

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you guys brainstorm together?

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a little bit of both.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_03]: It is right now.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It's very much like there is collaboration, but it's just kind of inspired by you.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_03]: There's no there's no like set in stone way to do anything for us.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_03]: So we have written sketches fully as a team, like kind of in the room everyone pitching on ideas and things kind of write themselves.

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_03]: We've also usually if someone brings an idea or a sketch and then we'll all like, you know, we have two writing meetings and we'll all pitch ideas, give notes, give feedback and then get rewrites.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And then also like I end up breaking out and trying to write with people because I'm terrible at writing and I hate doing it unless I have a deadline of someone doing it with me.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'll be like, I had this idea.

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Could you want to write it together?

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a lot of me like being like, I'll look at my notes is like, does anyone think this is funny?

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you think this is okay.

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's write that together.

[00:03:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that's the process.

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_01]: That's so relatable.

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_01]: So is it a brand new sketch show every two weeks?

[00:04:05] [SPEAKER_03]: That's every, every, oh the second Wednesday of every month.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Should have maybe I put that wrong.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, yeah.

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's one, one and a one a month.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And then we usually end up having one month off.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Although that's going to change because that was a, the Pac Theater was at the Broadwater Theater was like a stage of the Broadwater and that just changed.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So the Pac Theater should be running full year because they took a break for LA fringe every year before.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_03]: But the fact that you're just moved and it's got a new theater space and it's really good.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I had my first show there last night.

[00:04:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It was awesome.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's, it's great.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, yeah.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_00]: That's great.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Fantastic.

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:04:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm hmm.

[00:04:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm hmm.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Great.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if you know, but on this podcast we talk about mentals and the fact that we all have perfected them.

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: The fact that you're here must mean that you have perfected yours as well.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Good.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I am perfect.

[00:05:03] [SPEAKER_03]: So I just, I am perfect.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:05:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad that you got that.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_01]: I was, I was edging towards there and I'm glad that you knew where I was headed.

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_01]: So, like, you know, Heather and I not to brag but we have OCD and yourself.

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_01]: What's going on with your?

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I have, I've been, I have ADD.

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Basically, yeah, yeah.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Who knew?

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Who knew?

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I mean, it's your name.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I have OCD that's pretty minor.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm pretty lucky on the OCD range because like mine are very heightable and like mostly internal and then anxiety as well.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.

[00:05:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Mm hmm.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: You do have a lot of fun ones.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I also have generalized anxiety disorder just not to brag, but I do.

[00:06:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to kind of go back to you saying that you have the low end of OCD and saying that it's all internal and easily maskable, which to me is exhausting.

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_01]: How about yourself?

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_03]: It's that I don't find it super exa...

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It's honestly, as when I was younger, it was much more difficult.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I think is how I feel about it like pre pre me going to therapy.

[00:06:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Everything was a lot harder.

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe the, because I was like carrying around so much of like this other stress and all this stuff.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_03]: So all those things in my mind, I don't think about those OCD stuff.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I do like it doesn't occur to me until I'm like, oh, I'm moving my shoulders a lot right now.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Huh?

[00:06:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh yeah dude just relax.

[00:06:49] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, it is, it can be exhausting, but I in general try, I just don't think about it until it's like, oh, I'm blinking my eyes.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm blinking my eyes.

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_03]: What am I doing?

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And like it's like fully in it.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

[00:07:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So your OCD has like physical body manifestations.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Very yes.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_03]: They come out as nervous ticks.

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_03]: So I will clear my throat obsessively.

[00:07:16] [SPEAKER_03]: And they were like, we have a post nasal drip and someone was like, yeah, but one clearing your throat an hour takes care of that.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_03]: The other 20 you do are not that or it'll come out as like, like blinking is the thing that happens a lot to me.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, or, you know, just like these small little bits that I'll notice.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, oh, yep, I'm doing that ticker.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[00:07:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Cool.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_03]: But then in general, they once I've started, well, usually once I acknowledge that it's happening that starts calming it down.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I drink like five glasses of water and then that kind of surprise, surprise.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Water is important for your brain.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Who knew?

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Dude's so real.

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Anybody else really want to drink water right now?

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I'm going to drink some water right now.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: It was a good suggestion.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It could change your life.

[00:08:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: This weekend I was hanging out with my family.

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_01]: My mom reminded my sister and I that when we were upset as children, she would say like, I hear you're upset.

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think perhaps you're thirsty?

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Why don't you go drink a glass of water and then we can talk about it and we'd be like, not the water.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you what it's not.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not the water.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Drink, drink, drink.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Everything's fine.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have to talk about anything.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm from Oklahoma so that was like sweet tea and it did not help.

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_03]: It was not helpful at all.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So caffeine, sugar.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not seeing the problem as far as anxiety goes.

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You want to coke?

[00:08:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You want to coke to calm down?

[00:08:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Nope, I'm worse.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_01]: So also we were talking about before the podcast, all you listeners are jealous that when your

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_01]: anxiety in general is raised, the OCT and the ticks are also raised.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Everything kind of like so it all ramps up in for me it feels like together.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's all kind of like a little package that heats up together and cools down together.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, as my anxiety raises then everything else like I have one that's like really small

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_03]: which is like I'll like clench and unclench my toes in my shoe.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if anybody else has like I will literally like clench up my toes and unclench

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_03]: them and then that gets directly tied to my claustrophobia and then it's all start

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_03]: cycling and I'm like well all right we're just off to the races now.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Cool.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_03]: My shoes they're trapped in my feet are trapped in my shoes and I'm trapped in this whatever.

[00:09:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh no.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It's all one thing.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:09:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah I have something similar to that where I'll put on a sweater and all of a sudden I'll

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_00]: just have this moment where I'm like my head isn't going through the hole right now fast

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_00]: enough and then all of a sudden it'll set off a panic attack of I can't breathe,

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna die, they're gonna find my dead body somewhere you know.

[00:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: With a sweater on your head.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Mine usually goes to death but yeah that's.

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh mine is much more like I'm gonna be trapped here forever maybe I won't ever die but I'll

[00:10:12] [SPEAKER_03]: just live like the like if I'm in too cramped of a spot like I remember I went to like one

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_03]: of the like a haunted house kind you know one of these like LA like really over the

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_03]: top it was I think by bloom house like haunted house things and to enter it they had this

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_03]: thing and I've done one of these since and I was very brave and I was like you're not

[00:10:33] [SPEAKER_03]: you're not gonna you're not gonna get trapped in this because there's a thousand people

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_03]: here but it's like two inflatable balloons in a hallway and you walk between them it's

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_03]: as bad as it sounds if you have claustrophobia it's the worst thing you could do and I

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_03]: walked into it because you're following someone and then they get like the thing

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_03]: closes and then you're alone and it's.

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_03]: For me it was purely it wasn't even it was more like oh I'll just have to live like this

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_03]: now I live here it's never died it's always well this is where I'm at now forever and

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_03]: that's like what life's gonna be.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry sorry.

[00:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You know the classic tale.

[00:11:15] Yeah.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Just living between two balloons the way our forefathers did.

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah just just just making good on the earth like raising trying to raise some plants.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I'll get a cat one day all all in the balloon.

[00:11:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That is so horrifying and it reminded me I used to lead backpacking trips in Yosemite

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_01]: and unfortunately I had a bunch of kids who were really gung-ho at the time

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_01]: and I was like settle down like let's nap you know what I'm saying let's really get into it

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_01]: but there's this set of caves that's kind of near the base of Yosemite Falls

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_01]: and they're spider caves they're very small and there's one part.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like any which is.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_03]: There's two words both bad.

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_03]: They're both horrible words.

[00:12:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes wait for it wait for it because part of the cave is called the birth canal.

[00:12:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yep because it's so tight.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like being born and I said I'll stay outside with the claustrophobic kids.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll watch caving videos occasionally to like do you all ever do this like this

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_03]: my question would be strong I will like I'll like kind of like be like well it's

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_03]: like a horror movie for me like I'm watching this it's like people and in my mind

[00:12:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like someone uploaded this video so I know they live through this but then I got

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_01]: onto one thing it's found footage.

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_03]: No I got on to one that was like tip-top it was like YouTube videos of like caving

[00:12:53] [SPEAKER_03]: deaths and I was like because it was like it was like analyzing people who had it

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_03]: made it and I was like oh no this now I've gone down fully I'm not gonna sleep

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_03]: this is the worst what have I done to myself.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And there if you think they're bad there's bad as you think they're really horrible

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_03]: it's truly tragic.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_03]: And in a weird way what you've done is expose yourself.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah yeah I'm pushing myself through it so then when I have to like when I'm on

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_03]: a plane and and can't see outside for a second and feel like I'm gonna lose

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_03]: my mind I can be like well I'm not caving I'm not in this weird horrible.

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And now that's what I'm gonna do tonight I guarantee that's what happens.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Amazing.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Power of suggestion.

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_01]: I do okay two things one the difference between a horror movie and those videos

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: where the people didn't make it out alive.

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah yeah yeah very very big yes fair yes.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: One is so might say fiction.

[00:13:55] [SPEAKER_01]: And then the other thing I don't remember the other oh I don't know

[00:14:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to add my claustrophobia thing because you guys added yours

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_01]: which is drinking water.

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: I get very claustrophobic when drinking water.

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah so I got to switch it up so that you know like I have various different

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_01]: straws various different like cups and things to try and trick myself

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_01]: because yeah if you don't drink enough water the anxiety gets worse

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_01]: and then it's harder to drink water it's a fun thing.

[00:14:29] [SPEAKER_01]: But let's talk about plane flight.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Okay yes my favorite and least favorite thing it's not my least favorite thing

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_03]: that's hyper hyperbole is that hyperbole.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_03]: It's my favorite I love aircraft I'm a huge aviation or my dad was an airline mechanic.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_03]: So like I grew up around planes I grew up traveling and then in my like early

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_03]: 20s and then through like up until like my like I'm now in my entering my late 30s

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_03]: and like it went from like this fun thing I love to oh no this thing causes me to

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_03]: have panic attacks but I still love it and it's like kind of both.

[00:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah so I have I've had a couple big panic attacks the biggest one I don't know

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_03]: if you guys will tell the story if that's all right.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_03]: I was yes we are yeah so I went to China to save dogs.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's where we're starting I was in Beijing to save dogs from being eaten

[00:15:32] [SPEAKER_03]: that is actually with the dog the dogs were on a truck to go to a dog meet festival

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_03]: and they were saved by this group and I wasn't working at the time so I was like

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah I'll go to China for free so being a friend go to China we're there for four days

[00:15:47] [SPEAKER_03]: we're leaving we haven't met these dogs yet we go to the airport it's midnight

[00:15:55] [SPEAKER_03]: the woman who I've been talking to who is like arranging all this we meet the dogs

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_03]: there's four dogs each and we have to fly through Moscow back to New York then back to LA

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_03]: and I she's like oh let's have let's have let's get drinks like we'll go get a bunch of beers in the Beijing airport

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_03]: at this point I don't know alcohol is the worst thing you could possibly do to your body

[00:16:17] [SPEAKER_03]: when you have an anxiety problem and then so there's four three dogs under the plane that I'm responsible for

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_03]: and one that I have with me never met him new dog like a he's like a small poodle very sweet

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_03]: it's in a little bag and I get on this plane and after drinking my body clock is all over the place

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sitting next to someone I don't know because they don't let two people with dogs sit next to each other

[00:16:43] [SPEAKER_03]: which makes sense but it is like I'm just sitting next to a stranger and I'm on this most it's a Russian carrier arrow flight

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_03]: their their planes are very cramped and I'm a big dude and I proceed to start having easily the worst anxiety panic episode I've ever had in my life

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_03]: and this flight this flight's eight hours Beijing the Moscow it's middle of the night this young woman next to me

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I wish I had her name she was so great she was so sweet she was she would watch the dog from because I was I was like getting up and walking the full plane

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I would go to the back and just like kind of try to stretch out the flight attendants were giving me orange juice and water

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_03]: but also I've already ingested a ton of alcohol and I'm like oh no what a book this is not going to stop

[00:17:33] [SPEAKER_03]: and then in the back of my head the worst part is I'm like oh and then I get to Moscow and then I have a 12 hour flight

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_03]: and then in LA I have another six hour flight in New York from LA I was like this is just the very beginning of this long trip

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_03]: so yeah it was rough luckily I was able to like you know power through like like focus up and be like all right you just have to

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_03]: and I have like a fear of my ears like if I'm sick at all they won't regulate and I play music too so like I have this nightmare that I'm going to land in a plane one time

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_03]: and my eardrums are going to explode which I've had it happen I've had one not regulate your eardrums don't explode you just have that weird like you can barely hear thing

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_03]: but it doesn't like even if they explode there's like this heels this is fine it's not a big deal but in my brain I'm like and then up my brain will leak out

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_03]: and I'm gonna that's it for me so yeah that was the worst love those intrusive thoughts yeah so the next time I flew I was like let's talk to my doctor

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_03]: and I was like hey here's the deal I'm not trying to ask you for out of van but when I fly I've been using weed and that's not legal everywhere

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_03]: so can and they were like yeah absolutely no problem it was such a short conversation I was so mad that I could have avoided all this

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh that's my out of van okay first of all thank you for telling me yes

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: horrifying just to have a panic attack that early on to such a long trip it was bad oh my god and then to be responsible for four dogs yeah it was

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_03]: really bad it was really it was really really bad it was 27 hours of flying in a 24 hour clock time span because we were going against like

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER_03]: like time zones just like it was horrible oh yeah and also stress is me about it yeah okay sorry we can move on

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_03]: no I'm not involved I was like can I tell this story and now I'm like

[00:19:45] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah let your toes spread out everything's cool man everything's cool um I was gonna say oh out of van holy mackerel is that not the business

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_01]: it's really great it's really great for me yeah it just is like I said the thing is though I won't let myself take enough out of van

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_01]: because I am so paranoid about getting addicted to anything in this world so so I will only like do halves oh I'm in the same oh yeah

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm in this I was on ones they gave me ones and I was only taking like a quarter of those because I was like I was like well half is too much

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_03]: so I like when I travel I have it in the thing and then I this is a pro tip because I found that like I'd have these little you know

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_03]: pill bottles in my bag because it's always in my messenger bag with me just in case I need it or if you put your pills because if you'll notice

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_03]: like there's like the white residue because the pills are rattling around if you put your pills in like a sandwich bag inside of that

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_03]: they don't rattle around so it's like it's uh but I would have all these little chips like someone watch me take it

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_03]: and I'd be like licking my finger and like the thing I found out about out of van is it is actually it can be absorbed through your tongue

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_03]: and gums you don't actually need to swallow it it's faster that way because it's made for people who are like

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER_03]: put it under my tongue yeah people who can't who like are so into it that they can't even swallow it's made you could just shove it in their mouths

[00:21:17] [SPEAKER_03]: and then get in there yeah it's the business it is the amazing oh man because I also like I get bad um you know like the first day of work

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_03]: or if I'm like acting on something and I'm going to go on a shoot that night before I'm just like well I'm just not going to sleep

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_03]: that's just not in the cards for me and this was like yeah there's a pill you can take and then you sleep and I was like of course there is of course that exists

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: so Adam it's huge for that but oh god it's amazing and yeah but I love that for the longest time you're just like white knuckling yourself to be

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_01]: like well I'm going to sleep or I'm not going to sleep but probably the best way to sleep is to just know that I'm not going to sleep

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_01]: and then you're like doing that in your head like yay there was a night where I was like

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_03]: a pre-ativan where I remember being like I can't remember it was like I was going I think I might have been going on because I played music

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_03]: and I was going on like a little tour and if I remember it like I like this is not a good look I like drink a half bottle of wine

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_03]: and then took a bunch of weed because I was like I gotta get just like it's like two in the morning not none of it works

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_03]: and I was like now I'm like oh one at a van and uh at least it might not keep me asleep but it'll get me to sleep you know that's the thing

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_01]: like it just at least lets you fall asleep yes there's like there's like an initial hill and then as soon as you get over that

[00:22:42] [SPEAKER_01]: then it's yeah mostly downhill I mean I also have insomnia so I'll just wake up sometimes and be awake

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_01]: um shoot oh I know what I was going to ask you about well two things one I keep out of van on my key ring

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_01]: oh that's smart but I just it is but I put the pills and it's like a big pill case there's only three adorable little out of van in there

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_01]: and I'm realizing as you spoke they're probably just powder at this point so I need to do the ziplock baggy

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_03]: little little vial of powder on you running around the world is not the best look I mean I'm all for doing what you want

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_01]: but you're gonna get interrogated at some point yeah exactly oh I want to travel and meet people

[00:23:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I like it to be TSA security potentially police of other countries that just seems like a good time

[00:23:35] [SPEAKER_00]: especially if you're claustrophobic and with you know four strange dogs

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't go to prison let's just be very clear I've watched

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah you ever put me in prison I'm I'm that I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm not gonna be around because you can't

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't be locked in a thing for nope not me no how about solitary confinement

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_03]: no I don't want any part of it but just the idea like oh you're gonna go to sleep and they're gonna like lock the door behind you

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_01]: no not me but even that order of things would be better like if I was asleep and then they lock the doors

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be like cool yeah that's fine that's fine yeah the fact that they're like being this teeny teeny tiny space

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_01]: see this cement see the bars no night no no no not for me it's not for me to

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_03]: what kind of music do you play I'm in a band that plays rock and roll like a punk adjacent and we dress like monsters it's called

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Drunk in the Swamp Rats it's great yeah that's amazing what do you play kind of instruments that was a play drums

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_03]: there's one drum here there's guitars and stuff I play a bunch but in that band I play drums

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_03]: what is your costume then I'm Frankenstein within the I shouldn't I should I should be like I'm Frankenstein within this band

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_03]: or I know Frankenstein it's there with how serious we are about the it's all yeah Frankenstein that's the answer or Frankenstein's monster if you want to get

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_03]: that's exactly what I was going to say oh my god yeah I've had plenty of people bring it up and I'm like well

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_03]: well Frankenstein if Frankenstein is my dad then my name is also something Frankenstein so that's fine yeah true you're Mr Frankenstein he's Dr Frankenstein

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_03]: please we are the Frankenstein Mr Frankenstein is my dad please that's my father uh I'm just Frankenstein yeah yeah I didn't go rampaging for eight years

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_01]: to be referred to as doctor yeah yeah that's so cool how many people are in the band it's four of us took me a second we did have five and that's four

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah so it's Dracula is the front man Wolfman is the lead guitarist and then mummy is the bassist and it's great you can check that out anymore like

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_03]: drag small prats wherever you find stuff and yeah we have albums up on wherever you listen to music

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Dracazine DRAC that's it yep Drac in the small prats I think I've seen it on Instagram too because I thought it was great we're around yeah I post about it

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean obviously I see a lot of stuff we're coming up on the high on the holiday season for us so it's going to be it'll be a busy October September October

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_03]: how many weddings have you guys done none we've been asked and it's always it's always like someone's like we're gonna get married on like oh Halloween's on a Friday night

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_03]: and we're gonna get married that day and we're like well we'd love to do that but also that's like the best time for us to have a normal show you know it's like

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_03]: we would love to be at your wedding but you can't do it the night that we have to be playing other places but yeah yeah surprisingly it's surprisingly done

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_01]: yeah that just seems like missed opportunity people if you're getting married and you're looking for a band like I can't think of a more fun like that's amazing

[00:27:12] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah we're good time yeah it's certainly it's an experience but it is also like we're like it's a rock and roll show and I don't know if people want that

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_03]: like there's I don't know if you want this much fake bloodspot on you when you're wedding best but uh but yeah honestly

[00:27:27] [SPEAKER_03]: heck yeah okay but yeah that also there's an anxiety story there too oh my god another class we played a show in a basement last tour

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah last year we're in Tulsa Oklahoma uh which is where I'm from and we were playing a show like a DIY venue called Barkingham Palace it's an awesome place

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_03]: super cool these people's house normal house on the top and then their basement is like made into a awesome venue which is all things I'm on board for

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_03]: it's a weird cool punk venue and it's like packed in but thinking about it in the in the like I had nights I didn't sleep in the lead up to the show

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_03]: because I was like wait a minute we're gonna be in this basement and there's gonna be like a hundred people in there and it's not like a venue

[00:28:16] [SPEAKER_03]: it's just like a room and yeah and then we go my friend we get to the place and my friends go down there and I've been telling like this is making me

[00:28:26] [SPEAKER_03]: stressed out I was like I'm gonna do the show but the second the show is from getting out of that basement uh and they go down there like yeah it's worse

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_03]: it's worse than you thought because it was like oh my god it was it was two steps down and then a back door to an exit so that's good so there's a door outside

[00:28:43] [SPEAKER_03]: so like from the basement there's a straight door outside but then it's a right a 90 degree right turn down five steps and then that's the basement

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_03]: and I was like so it's like you have to like turn around and then so we play the show it goes great I don't I'm not drink is like take a little take a little out of and make me get through everything

[00:29:04] [SPEAKER_03]: and I'm like okay cool and we're playing the show and I'm upstairs and then there's the band after us is playing and I can hear it

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_03]: and I'm like selling merch and like hanging out and then the music stops abruptly and like what's going on and then all of a sudden people get out of the basement

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_03]: and I'm like what is going on and it is that someone had hit and like run into the water heater and there was gas leaking in the basement

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_03]: and so we're all we all go outside and like grab our stuff and get the hell out of there and everyone in my band is like I am so happy that did not happen during our set

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like I would have murdered people running for the door I would have like charged through people

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_03]: yeah man but that was another out of the success story where

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_03]: were you just floating I was just like yeah cool man because everyone's like I've seen old friends who would like not see the band before and like you want to drink and I was like I'm good

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_03]: they're like well I'm like I'm I'm I need to what I need to do is not mess with like that I'm not nervous right that's all I have to do yes

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, yes.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_01]: That's horrifying.

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I, uh, I also like realized, I don't know if I realized I was old, too old

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_01]: to go to certain venues anymore, but it was like, if there weren't multiple

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_01]: exits that were clear and, you know, you could see them.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't care how much I love this performer.

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if I'm in the front row.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care how much money I spent.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not happening.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_03]: That's, that's a responsible way to live your life.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a very, uh, I, what I do is I just go white knuckle it.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll just deal with it.

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that's my brain.

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Just like, I guess I'll suffer.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess, because sometimes it's like, like with these, like, I, and I

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_03]: would never go to a show with those.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I would follow your rules.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_03]: But in playing them, I'm like, well, I'm kind of stuck doing this thing.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just gonna, I guess I'm, and the upside is like for music, it's, it's

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_03]: distracting.

[00:31:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I love doing like performing it so much that I'm not thinking

[00:31:19] [SPEAKER_03]: about anything else during the show.

[00:31:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just having a blast and like, you know, spitting beer on people

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_03]: and losing my mind.

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_03]: So like, but then the second it was over, I'm like, I got to get

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_03]: the hell out of this.

[00:31:33] Yeah.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh man, that was a good.

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I need a quarter, a quarter of out of van and an open space.

[00:31:39] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I need in this film.

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:31:41] [SPEAKER_03]: I bailed and like went straight for the backyard and was like just

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_03]: standing out.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I'd be like, are you all right?

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, yeah, I'm fine.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm fine.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm fine.

[00:31:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Just, I just need to not be down there anymore.

[00:31:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Um, yes.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Which sucks.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Who doesn't love a bass?

[00:31:52] [SPEAKER_03]: But now when I think about that they only have one exit, I

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_03]: don't like them very much.

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, listen, if there are two, maybe three people in that

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_01]: basement, I can hang out for a bit.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But as soon as there is one person more, I start to think

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: about if we all go for the door at the same time and then

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_01]: people get wedged and I can't climb over them because

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_01]: obviously I'm going to climb over them to get out.

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And then what?

[00:32:18] [SPEAKER_01]: That's how I die?

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_01]: No.

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Scraping and clawing at humans to try to, yeah.

[00:32:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a, no, it's a real, yeah.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Clostrophobia is the real, the real demon in my life right now.

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's fine.

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_03]: It is, yeah, basements are horrible.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_03]: What's weird is I'm in a basement right now.

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Like my apartment has like its two floors and one of them

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_03]: is in the basement.

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_03]: But I realize now I'm like, oh, but there's an exit here.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Like there's a secondary front door for our apartment.

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, oh man, because if this didn't have that,

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_03]: because otherwise it's just a spiral staircase.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I would have never lived here.

[00:32:57] [SPEAKER_03]: I would have never been okay with that.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_03]: But it works.

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And you have a window.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and that's a whole other exit.

[00:33:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because they're close to like, it's like the street is at an angle.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_03]: So this is at the front end of the building.

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_03]: This is fully underground.

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And then as you go further towards the back of the building,

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_03]: it starts getting less and less.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a daylight basement.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm very lucky.

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm very lucky to have a daylight basement.

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't own the basements.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Why?

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_03]: What are we doing in this?

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Spiral staircases.

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, oh, if you go to one of those ones in like Europe

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_03]: and it's like in a medieval castle, they're like, oh, well,

[00:33:33] [SPEAKER_03]: that you have to take this spiral staircase up to the roof of this church.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, no, I'm not.

[00:33:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just OK. Is it a roof?

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen a roof.

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, I don't need to see this room.

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because they're like, oh, they're like these tiny.

[00:33:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because they're made for teeny tiny people that used to be around

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_01]: as like I went to the Duomo, the top of the Duomo.

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And nobody that's exactly what I was talking about is that's exactly the experience.

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, they said, oh, well, there's an elevator or this.

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, both those sound horrible.

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't need to go.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Horrendous.

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Horrendous.

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, so I was in San Francisco, Sketchfest two years ago or something

[00:34:11] [SPEAKER_01]: at this point, my family came out fabulous and we stayed in this hotel,

[00:34:15] [SPEAKER_01]: which was like super old on the ninth floor.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_01]: It is a spiral staircase

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: or the tiniest elevator

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_01]: where like one person with luggage can fit.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I'm saying?

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like pre-war war, like pre-revolutionary war.

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Just no. Yeah.

[00:34:38] [SPEAKER_03]: What did you choose? Which one?

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_01]: The stairs, because at least I could fall down them.

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, interesting.

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_03]: We had a I was just I was not Justin.

[00:34:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like over a year ago in Italy with my family and we had rented

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_03]: an Airbnb because my mom has mobility issues that had and that had a elevator.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_03]: But it was all those they're all converted.

[00:34:57] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like it was the center of like a spiral staircase,

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_03]: but one of those beautiful huge ones, you know, like like a grand like circular

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_03]: staircase and then the middle was an elevator that they had at like retrofitted.

[00:35:09] [SPEAKER_03]: And it was tiny in the same like like she could get in there and the walker

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_03]: and then you kind of had to close the doors to your best ability.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And then it would kind of go.

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I love that elevator, though, because the even though I was enclosed,

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_03]: like it had like a mesh, it wasn't in a tube.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like a mesh like metal was the walls.

[00:35:30] [SPEAKER_03]: So I could like still breathe and get fresh air.

[00:35:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, OK, this I can deal with.

[00:35:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the concrete tube of an elevator

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_03]: that I'm not on board with.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_03]: If you think about it too much like Vegas, those express elevators.

[00:35:43] [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to ruin a lot of things for people on this podcast.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_03]: It is what I'm saying.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_03]: We have a lot of new reasons to have anxiety.

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, that's the whole point.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly what I was like.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_00]: The whole point is to ruin it, to ruin it all,

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_00]: to basically live inside your house with all the doors closed,

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_00]: except for the windows being open.

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_00]: So you have a way to look outside if you have claustrophobia, you know?

[00:36:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And and then we'll start wearing shoeboxes

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_00]: or tissue boxes on our feet.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, collect our fingernails, you know, the normal stuff.

[00:36:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You say we will, but I have been doing some of those things quite some time.

[00:36:28] [SPEAKER_01]: The other thing I have is heights.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_01]: How are you guys with heights?

[00:36:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Have I got to go for it?

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_00]: No, Winston pointed.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, yeah, I know.

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, is it me?

[00:36:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the fun game we play on podcasts

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_01]: where we silently point at each other.

[00:36:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that nobody can see when it's on an audio recording.

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the best.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_03]: So you don't like heights.

[00:36:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody likes heights.

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_03]: We're all agreed.

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that the end of that segment?

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah. No, I don't have a problem with heights

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_00]: other than, you know, the minor intrusive thoughts that happened

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_00]: from them, like what if I fell off, you know,

[00:37:08] [SPEAKER_00]: if I got too close or a bird sweeps in and then I fall off the building

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_00]: and then, you know, other things like that.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_00]: But my mind's a little bit creative,

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_00]: but it depends on what gets sticky, you know, what my mind latches on to

[00:37:20] [SPEAKER_00]: before I get to the compulsions.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: But heights aren't that much of a problem.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I love flying.

[00:37:24] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been flying since I was like six months old.

[00:37:27] [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, yeah, I like extreme heights.

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, I just bragged a lot.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's great.

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_03]: No, that's great.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I like I like big heights.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm fine with plane height.

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm flying with like, like being in a tall building doesn't it's it's

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_03]: a firm. Yeah, it's like maybe but like 15 feet off the ground.

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to love like that's for me.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Like like the heights where I'm like, shit, I would survive that is like very frustrating.

[00:37:53] [SPEAKER_01]: I am exactly the opposite.

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh, I'm just going to have a mangled leg or something.

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_01]: But my problem with heights is that I have an urge to jump.

[00:38:05] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, all the time.

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's like, you know, you guys get this when you're driving

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and there's the oncoming traffic and you're just like, but what if I just turned

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_01]: the old wheel and see what happens?

[00:38:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, totally. Yeah, absolutely.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm 100 percent.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm certainly not just like trying to make you feel better about that.

[00:38:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I yeah, absolutely.

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_00]: That's how I always drive, you know, actually most of the time

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_00]: it's like when I'm driving, it's like I start to visualize OK,

[00:38:37] [SPEAKER_00]: if that guy moves too fast over here and then if he bumps into this person

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_00]: over there, then this is this collision is going to happen.

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_00]: And then so how do I maneuver around the collision?

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_00]: The thing that didn't happen, I'm planning.

[00:38:50] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, how to recover from it.

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_00]: That's your plan.

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_02]: That's my yeah.

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it it might be.

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean on a on another level

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_00]: because sometimes it gets a little like I'm in a movie.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_00]: OK, and it feels like I'm in fast, you know, fast, various like movie,

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, where car explosions happen and, you know, all of a sudden

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_00]: my car is like flying off the freeway and, you know, so I have to maneuver

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_00]: through that. How do I maneuver back onto the road and then head to my destination?

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, these are very important things in my mind.

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if there's a there's a gangland shootout,

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_03]: how do I get to Ralph's?

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Get back to the grocery store. Yeah.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, I have so many questions, Heather, which I think should just be my nickname.

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I have so many questions.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_01]: One, is this real or is this just a bit?

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's real. OK, two.

[00:39:48] [SPEAKER_00]: I used to think about it more often.

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, is this catastrophizing as a cognitive

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_01]: not dissociation, Gabby.

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Think of the word I don't know, cognitive.

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Diffusion, wronging. Oh, wronging.

[00:40:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'm a really good driver.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I believe you it's the part where things are exploding

[00:40:11] [SPEAKER_01]: and we're in gangland shootabouts and fast and furious has come into play,

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_01]: which is so different from how I know you and what I thought of your life.

[00:40:23] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm also wondering, because I know coming up with plans B, C, D,

[00:40:29] [SPEAKER_01]: et cetera is very OCD.

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So I just wondering how you feel about that.

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_00]: I've gotten better.

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not really my intrusive thoughts that I have that much anymore.

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_00]: But I know that when I do catastrophize,

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I tend to go big bigger than I admit.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know what I'm saying anymore.

[00:40:49] [SPEAKER_00]: That was like now I'm in my head.

[00:40:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I want to say if that's like a coping mechanism, I'm just going to

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to talk about things I don't know about anything about.

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that a good mechanism?

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_03]: That's OK. We do it all the time because it might be

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_03]: because there is an element like I do this sometimes where I'm like,

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll start freaking out like on a plane.

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I'm like, well, I'm trapped in the plane.

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And like, like part of it is like, if I can push it far enough

[00:41:12] [SPEAKER_03]: into where it becomes absurd, then I'm reminded of how absurd

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_03]: just the base thought is.

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Is that like like so if you're like and then this is going to flip over.

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, yeah, none of that's going to happen.

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And then even though it might not like it's a small way of like

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_03]: walking yourself back a little bit, if that.

[00:41:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know that's your I know I do have done elements of that before.

[00:41:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That sounds like yeah, I have CBT to me.

[00:41:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But sorry, Heather, continue.

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, it does.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like an imaginal thing.

[00:41:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, where you're kind of catastrophizing.

[00:41:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like when I was got my wisdom,

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_00]: my fully impacted wisdom teeth pulled out a few years ago

[00:41:50] [SPEAKER_00]: and I didn't need them to be pulled out, which was fun.

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I hated planning for the surgery.

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_00]: And my therapist made me do an imaginal where I had to write a script.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_00]: But he just laughed because every time I wrote one, I always died in surgery.

[00:42:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was the ultimate end is death.

[00:42:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Right. And for some odd reason, you know, it's it's like, you know,

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_00]: the instruments go, you know, when they're cutting into my gums,

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_00]: they actually slice through my cheek and then it comes up through my eye.

[00:42:25] [SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, and then and then I die.

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_00]: But at first I have to struggle for at least a few days, maybe in a coma,

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, while my, you know, they're unable to stop the bleeding for some reason.

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I get an infection and then there's, you know, a slow death.

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And then I die. So yeah.

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_00]: That didn't happen.

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a fun imaginal.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's great.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't happen.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Can I agree?

[00:42:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Also didn't have to lose them, you know.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_03]: That's very frustrating.

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_03]: That's incredible.

[00:42:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I couldn't see him.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, technically they could have just put me out and under,

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_00]: made me pay thousands of dollars and then I could still have them.

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But I would never know because they're under my gums.

[00:43:09] [SPEAKER_03]: You can't like feel that they're you can feel that they're gone though, right?

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you don't have like I saw like there's no like last

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_03]: thing. Oh, man, I asked somebody I just had surgery and I'm like,

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_03]: well, what if they were lying to me?

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, what if my godmother's still in there and I just don't know it?

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_03]: They just made a bunch of fun holes.

[00:43:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Shit. Yeah.

[00:43:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to ask.

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a new yeah.

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. It's a new thing that they're doing.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a new medical thing that they're just kind of doing these mystery things.

[00:43:38] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's like you guys didn't take anything out.

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_00]: That is a thing.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:43:43] [SPEAKER_01]: The placebo surgeries are an actual thing.

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_01]: It is like they are.

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_03]: They better not have done that.

[00:43:49] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to be pissed off.

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I saw that bill.

[00:43:51] [SPEAKER_03]: No, they better take some stuff out of me.

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, well, a couple of things.

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_01]: One is they it was like a scammy thing and you generally have to be

[00:44:01] [SPEAKER_01]: semi awake for it because they perform it.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_01]: There's like a lot of fake blood.

[00:44:06] [SPEAKER_01]: They like it looks like they're going in to you,

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_01]: but they're not actually going into you like that sort of thing.

[00:44:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a scam.

[00:44:12] [SPEAKER_01]: The second one is for knee surgeries, they found that people who had a placebo

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_01]: knee surgery where they would like cut the knee but not actually do anything

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_01]: inside of it and sew it back up had just as much of a response to the

[00:44:29] [SPEAKER_01]: surgery as people who had had like the full extensive surgery.

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man. Oh, wow. Wow.

[00:44:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But who knows?

[00:44:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe that is something to do with the anesthesia.

[00:44:40] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, like ketamine therapy, maybe they were just depressed

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_01]: and afterwards they weren't depressed anymore.

[00:44:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I haven't eaten crazy fried foods.

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_03]: So whatever they did works because no gallbladder issues.

[00:44:51] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's great.

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_03]: That's maybe my placebo.

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it's still in there.

[00:44:56] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just pumping away.

[00:44:58] [SPEAKER_01]: So what's the tie in between fried foods and gallbladders?

[00:45:03] [SPEAKER_03]: Gallbladders hold bile, which is something that assists.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_03]: It's your liver makes bile and then it dumps it into your gallbladder.

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Your gallbladder stores it, I think maybe like refines it.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And then when you eat fried foods, bile is what helps your body digest

[00:45:17] [SPEAKER_03]: the oil, like all the fat and everything that's in.

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_03]: It's any fatty foods.

[00:45:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So gallbladders.

[00:45:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So when you have gallstones or gallbladder disease or something,

[00:45:27] [SPEAKER_03]: stones develop when your when your gallbladder squeezes to push

[00:45:30] [SPEAKER_03]: bile and it takes the stones and that becomes super painful and can cause problems.

[00:45:34] [SPEAKER_03]: So they cut your gallbladder out and your liver just dumps it straight in

[00:45:38] [SPEAKER_03]: and then your body can just readjust without it.

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so it's in some people.

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And people have like belly problems forever.

[00:45:44] [SPEAKER_03]: But for the most part, your body is just like, oh, I don't have that thing anymore.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, I'll just figure out how to work around it.

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Huh. But bodies are made.

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I was going to say. Yeah.

[00:45:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm sorry.

[00:45:55] [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't mean to take your no, no, no.

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_00]: You want to say it?

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was cool that we have about to say it at the same time.

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I do have to say I remembered it is cognitive distortions.

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the word I was trying for distortion.

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And since I mentioned CBT, I want to say that is

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_01]: oh, shoot, cognitive behavioral therapy.

[00:46:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Is that right? Yes, it is.

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, I just realized cognitive came up twice and it was bothering me.

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyhow, it's weird.

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I have very little anxiety having surgery.

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_03]: I will say that very little.

[00:46:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Very little. They also gave me stuff for it,

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_03]: but way less than I thought I would.

[00:46:34] [SPEAKER_03]: It all came after, after like the reality of everything that had happened

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_03]: hit me, but like in a dance, I was like, whatever, let's just do it.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I was like, it's very much like I was like, there's no

[00:46:44] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not not going to do this.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Like they're like getting my research.

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, well, we're doing like this isn't changing.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Nothing I do now changes this.

[00:46:52] [SPEAKER_03]: So let's just go for it.

[00:46:55] [SPEAKER_01]: That's very Zen.

[00:46:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you talk about what happened afterwards?

[00:47:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Afterwards, I just had like so I ended up having this was what a month ago.

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is like a month.

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I ended up being in the hospital for six nights, which was not planned.

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_03]: I went for I was having got like issues with my gallbladder

[00:47:15] [SPEAKER_03]: and then I went in and then it had become a slightly bigger deal

[00:47:18] [SPEAKER_03]: that could affect my liver.

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_03]: For reference, there's a number I'd had a blood work done

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_03]: the week before for something separate.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, well, this number here, you were at like 80,

[00:47:28] [SPEAKER_03]: which is actually a little high, but fine.

[00:47:30] [SPEAKER_03]: When you came into the hospital, it was at 660.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, that's not good.

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_03]: And they were like, yeah, no, no, no, that's real bad.

[00:47:38] [SPEAKER_03]: They're like so I ended up staying in the hospital for six nights

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_03]: and dealing with all that.

[00:47:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And then after like, like so for the first three days,

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't eat, but they didn't do anything to me

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_03]: because they were like letting my body clear up before they like did.

[00:47:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I had two different procedures, but I felt fine.

[00:47:55] [SPEAKER_03]: So I was like, oh, I'm just here.

[00:47:58] [SPEAKER_03]: This is I'm sleeping.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not even drinking water, but I like I felt 100 percent normal.

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like walking around doing stuff and then they did the surgeries.

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_03]: And then the reality of like, oh, I'm in a hospital.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_03]: This has not been like a fun trip.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_03]: This is like a reality like, oh, shit, I could have died.

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I probably wasn't going to.

[00:48:18] [SPEAKER_03]: But like every time you go under, there is a chance.

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Like so all that hit me post.

[00:48:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So like right as I was like cut up and all jacked up,

[00:48:27] [SPEAKER_03]: but I was like, oh no, this is like it was a very

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_03]: kind of intense awakening to the realities of the situation.

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_03]: All hit at once.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah. Yeah.

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. But it was fine.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.

[00:48:40] [SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_03]: You like go through it, then you're fine.

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, most people are fine.

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Most people most of the time are fine.

[00:48:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So that's the upside.

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Mm hmm. Until that one person that one time.

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's going to happen.

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_03]: It's I also I

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm constantly like death is just part of life.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just a thing that's going to it's a thing

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_03]: that's going to literally happen to everybody.

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And I might as well get good with it and be like, yeah,

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_03]: that's going to happen to my adorable 11 year old niece

[00:49:10] [SPEAKER_03]: is one day going to pass away.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to happen.

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And that's OK.

[00:49:14] [SPEAKER_03]: That's just a reality.

[00:49:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And for me, that's very like cool.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Because then when it does happen, I'm like,

[00:49:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sad, but that's the thing.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I this isn't a surprise.

[00:49:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So that feels like it kind of helped.

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_03]: But also my girlfriend hates it because I was like,

[00:49:28] [SPEAKER_03]: we're all going to die one day.

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't make me fun.

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That seems so romantic, though.

[00:49:36] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't just like pillow talk like, hey, babe.

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I put on interview with the vampire.

[00:49:41] [SPEAKER_03]: And I say, we're all going to pass away one day.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_03]: And then yeah.

[00:49:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:49:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and then you just fall asleep.

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And we fall asleep.

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_03]: And we fall asleep maybe forever.

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but I was even someone who I feel like I've like

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_03]: prepped myself for that with the reality of mine came around.

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, no, no, I'm not.

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not, you know, it's like very.

[00:50:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:50:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's good.

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's called survival instinct.

[00:50:13] [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's probably a positive.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_03]: It'd be horrible if like I was like going in for gallbladder surgery,

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_03]: pretty routine.

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, you know, if it goes wrong, it goes wrong.

[00:50:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody.

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

[00:50:33] [SPEAKER_03]: Coming inside of other stuff, I need to get looked at.

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_01]: When they took out my turns out very healthy appendix,

[00:50:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I definitely asked the surgeon quite a few times like,

[00:50:46] [SPEAKER_01]: hey, this is a routine procedure.

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Right? Like you've done this before, right?

[00:50:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Like a bunch.

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Like a lot.

[00:50:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Like how many people live like most people?

[00:50:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_03]: They apparently they usually take someone's appendix out

[00:51:01] [SPEAKER_03]: when they do gallbladder surgery and they didn't for me.

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's a no.

[00:51:04] [SPEAKER_03]: They'll just take them both out at once

[00:51:05] [SPEAKER_03]: because they're like we're already in there.

[00:51:07] [SPEAKER_03]: And the only thing your appendix can do is explode.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So they're usually like, let's just get it out.

[00:51:12] [SPEAKER_03]: But they put me there again.

[00:51:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Huh?

[00:51:14] [SPEAKER_03]: But it sucks that you don't have to get it.

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I kept I kept saying, let's have fun in there

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_03]: to everyone in advance of mine to deal with like my anxiety.

[00:51:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, because I was nervous.

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_03]: So if you want to see a surgeon be really knocked off guard,

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_03]: be like, hey, man, have fun in there

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_03]: and they do not know how to answer.

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I would assume they would pull your hand up.

[00:51:35] [SPEAKER_01]: The one that's got the IVs going into it.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Just high five.

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You're right. I wish.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they were like one dude was like, OK.

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_03]: And then he stopped and he looked back like, did he say what I think he said?

[00:51:46] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, bigger guy.

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I'm hoping maybe they like tied a fun knot somewhere.

[00:51:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. I'm never going to see it.

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Did you hear about the surgeon

[00:51:59] [SPEAKER_01]: who used to cauterize their initials into like that's so messed up.

[00:52:06] [SPEAKER_03]: But also.

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_03]: If he does a good job, I don't mind signing.

[00:52:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Is like I'm like, first of all,

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I think I mean, obviously you can't do that for a number of reasons

[00:52:16] [SPEAKER_03]: that someone's body after respect.

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_03]: But I think you should have been asking people,

[00:52:20] [SPEAKER_03]: being like, hey, if I crush this,

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_03]: can I just put my little initials inside of you?

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I would love that.

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I would be incredible.

[00:52:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I would have been like, yeah, dude, do it.

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_01]: I think I would be like, let's go over the parameters of crushing it, though.

[00:52:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because yeah, you're like.

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Something that's not supposed to be nicked.

[00:52:39] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no initials.

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_03]: That's your incentive as the surgeon beyond the money,

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_03]: because I know you guys don't care about that.

[00:52:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the real.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_03]: But I would also have been like, can you like put like the map

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_03]: like to the Declaration of Independence on like the inside?

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Like so one day if I die and somehow my guts are exposed,

[00:52:56] [SPEAKER_03]: someone's like, does one have a treasure map

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_03]: inside of his abdomen?

[00:53:02] [SPEAKER_03]: They'd be incredible. Yeah, man.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Also, who would discover that?

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Like the the mortician, I guess, would be the one just being like.

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Just imagine the the hubbub that would happen

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_03]: if when you pass they are doing because they don't do an autopsy in everyone,

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_03]: but you request an autopsy whenever I pass, make sure they do a full autopsy

[00:53:24] [SPEAKER_03]: and inside they find a treasure.

[00:53:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Someone it doesn't matter what it goes to.

[00:53:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Someone's going to follow it.

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_03]: You just have a bunch of coordinates on the inside of your tummy.

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. Now I'm kind of like, shit, how can I get that?

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Do it. Yeah.

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_01]: It turns out just to be geocaching and it's just like a lunchbox.

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's like little.

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_03]: There's the coordinates for Newark International Airport.

[00:53:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what we're supposed to do there.

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Get on a flight, man.

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You have your whole life ahead of you.

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm dead.

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_03]: She sent me to be like afterthought New York airport for this.

[00:54:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_01]: That's good. Leave people with a puzzle, you know, like a map to a puzzle

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_01]: to a mystery. Yes.

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I want my funeral to be a lot like like a bunch of people watching lost.

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_03]: So that's really the goal.

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody is saying like,

[00:54:22] [SPEAKER_01]: does this need to be as long as it is?

[00:54:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm intrigued and then walking away going, is he dead?

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_01]: What? Yeah.

[00:54:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, my coffin is in the shape of a hatch.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_03]: So it does start to make sense.

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It all really starts together.

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And it takes like your niece,

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_01]: who's the one who's got like the curiosity behind it, open up the hatch.

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And now I'm fully I want to start

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_03]: like giving people like small things that have like a little tidbit song

[00:54:50] [SPEAKER_03]: that mean nothing, that mean don't mean a thing.

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Man, that'd be so fun.

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I had a friend.

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_03]: This is a very tangential story real quick.

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Great friend and a friend in college had a

[00:55:02] [SPEAKER_03]: they had a costume party, not at Halloween.

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And he told everybody a different theme

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_03]: and it was the coolest party I've ever been to

[00:55:10] [SPEAKER_03]: because some people and he would repeat themselves.

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_03]: There might be like five people who were superheroes.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_03]: There might be another five people who are great historical figures.

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And this feels like that where it's like makes no sense, but is fun.

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. Yeah.

[00:55:23] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a great funeral right there.

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Also, I just thought, can we make little messages

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_01]: that go inside of pistachios?

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I'm saying?

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_01]: So you crack open a pistachio and there's your little message.

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I like that idea.

[00:55:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I like the idea.

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it like a rolled up like piece of paper or are you like,

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_00]: you know, writing it on the nut?

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, OK. OK.

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking it was just like a tiny flat piece of paper

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_01]: because you know, you got to get.

[00:55:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do you slip it in somehow?

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I imagine it was written on the inside of the of the shell

[00:55:59] [SPEAKER_03]: and then you're reattach it like you're re gluing shells around the nuts.

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, I like that.

[00:56:04] [SPEAKER_03]: These are all good options.

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_01]: These are good options.

[00:56:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I am going to question like, is the adhesive going to be like edible?

[00:56:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Are we nobody?

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_01]: You don't eat the shell.

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Are you all eating pistachios?

[00:56:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Am I? How do you get your fiber?

[00:56:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:56:20] [SPEAKER_03]: You just take a handful of pistachios

[00:56:22] [SPEAKER_03]: and you just throw them in the air, lands in the mouth, lands in the mouth.

[00:56:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Exactly. And who says you chew?

[00:56:29] [SPEAKER_01]: You just swallow, you go about your day

[00:56:31] [SPEAKER_01]: and you hope your gallbladder can take care of it.

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Well, I mean, there's no more special shells in my life.

[00:56:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Those days are behind me.

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_01]: No, but I do.

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, I do occasionally suck on the pistachio shell

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_01]: if I need like extra hit of salt.

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Yeah.

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, but this is what I'm saying.

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_01]: If there is adhesive on there,

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't we got to I'm just we got to make sure that the

[00:56:57] [SPEAKER_00]: it needs to be edible, edible or like maybe it's sugar or something like that.

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Or gluten free at the very least.

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:57:06] [SPEAKER_00]: You get your sugar, you get your salt.

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I love the idea of like and then a little message

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_03]: like people go into your funeral.

[00:57:11] [SPEAKER_03]: They're all like all my family is grieving and said on top of it,

[00:57:15] [SPEAKER_03]: I put in like a bunch of like off like it's like an escape room.

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's something.

[00:57:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_03]: If you don't if you don't figure this out,

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_03]: you should be stuck in here with me, my dead body forever.

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's that kind of thing.

[00:57:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I think would be really fun.

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I'm I'm big on like funeral.

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I want my funeral to be fun, if possible.

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, I'm what I'm hearing from you is your funeral is going to take place

[00:57:39] [SPEAKER_01]: in a basement with one door exit and everybody gets locked in

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_01]: as they have to solve a series of problems.

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. In my mind, my body is the door.

[00:57:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Like my coffin is the door.

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_03]: You have to get past me because it's also it's got to it's got to have some

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_03]: emotional resonance, you know, like like you have to move past me

[00:57:59] [SPEAKER_03]: both physically and emotionally to get out of this room.

[00:58:03] [SPEAKER_03]: No, for years, I thought my funniest joke would be I really wanted to have

[00:58:08] [SPEAKER_03]: and now that I think about, oh, I guess this is kind of like a weird

[00:58:11] [SPEAKER_03]: like mental health thought because I would think about my funeral.

[00:58:14] [SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to serve barbecue at my funeral.

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And then if I could have a video of me announcing the barbecue was me

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_03]: halfway through the day.

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And of course, not true, but I love the idea that everyone would be like

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_03]: for a pro good minute.

[00:58:31] [SPEAKER_03]: How do you think did they just consume me?

[00:58:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And you could be like if it's good enough for Jesus to be consumed.

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm like, I'm so happy you guys enjoyed me

[00:58:42] [SPEAKER_03]: both in person and in person today.

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, I could really, really

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_01]: can you please do the bedump thing as well?

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, your own. Yeah.

[00:58:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would just I feel like I would definitely end it though.

[00:58:56] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, like, like just kidding.

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Just kidding. Am I like I love the idea of like everyone being like, oh, no.

[00:59:04] [SPEAKER_03]: What do we do with all this?

[00:59:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Like.

[00:59:10] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a normal thought in people with not mental stuff going on.

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Have right. That's just a normal human thought.

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Completely normal thought.

[00:59:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But let's leave the normies out of it because my thought was,

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_01]: do you think they would all save the bones then if they knew that if they thought

[00:59:25] [SPEAKER_01]: that it was you and try and piece you back together to form?

[00:59:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait for it. A treasure map.

[00:59:31] [SPEAKER_03]: I hope so. That would be incredible.

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_03]: That would be amazing.

[00:59:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would want them to cremate those bones and then put them out.

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're just like they're just distributing some pig.

[00:59:40] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like.

[00:59:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Like, well, we're going to put it back together and they're like, this is an animal.

[00:59:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Right? We're all in agreement.

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Tyrannosaurus rex.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_02]: This is obviously a T-rex.

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this I believe with the rose of teeth, we're looking at a great white.

[00:59:59] [SPEAKER_03]: That would be so funny.

[01:00:00] [SPEAKER_02]: So funny.

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, welcome to the normie podcast.

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about normal things and we're all normal.

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what is normal?

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_01]: What is normal?

[01:00:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Did by any chance in junior high, there was something called like,

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_01]: oh my God, what is it when you're a teenager, you go through puberty?

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It was called puberty nightmare and puberty street.

[01:00:33] [SPEAKER_01]: And it was a series of performers that would come in and do little

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: musical numbers about puberty and they had like a jungle gym, like on wheels

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_01]: that they would kind of like spin around and climb on and sing like that.

[01:00:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And one of the songs was called

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_01]: What is normal?

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And the response was am I normal?

[01:00:56] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's all I remember about that.

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But it was it was bad.

[01:01:00] [SPEAKER_01]: It was real bad.

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't imagine.

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, the people do that performers in that are self aware humans.

[01:01:09] [SPEAKER_03]: They know it's not great, right?

[01:01:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Like they're aware, but I'm sure they're getting paid.

[01:01:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And I bet at that time probably pretty decently.

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, well, it's a gig, man, gigs.

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 1000 percent.

[01:01:22] [SPEAKER_03]: Man, that's God.

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

[01:01:25] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, Juilliard was not cheap.

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:01:28] [SPEAKER_01]: And I got to pay off these loans.

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That's yeah.

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_01]: And there was a Q&A at the end and one of the cool guys in my school, you know,

[01:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: shot up, raised his hand and they were like, yes, you know,

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_01]: this is a free open space.

[01:01:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's get into conversation about bodies and whatever else.

[01:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, can I see your dick?

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, everybody erupted in laughter.

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, it's good bit.

[01:01:57] [SPEAKER_03]: That's very funny.

[01:01:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Makes me laugh.

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Years later, I'm laughing about that.

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_03]: That's very funny.

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And again, as a performer, are you just like trying to hold back from laughter?

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Or are you so tired of hearing this question at every junior high you go to?

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:02:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, man.

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:02:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Incredible.

[01:02:19] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's I have a theory that like those things only didn't work because

[01:02:23] [SPEAKER_03]: they weren't like there's just like they're talking to kids the wrong way.

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, they're like pandering to them and like because I have like

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_03]: nieces and nephews and like if you just talk to them like they're people,

[01:02:32] [SPEAKER_03]: they have brains and can think for themselves.

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_03]: They're actually like they will engage like all the stuff they wanted from that

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_03]: could happen, but they just didn't you can't approach it like, hey, kid,

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_03]: what's what's the haps?

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Puberty like you can't just talk to them like, hey, how's it going?

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I went through what you're going through.

[01:02:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It sucks, right?

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And then we're like, yeah, it sucks.

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh man.

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But also if you go and your voice gets real high when you talk to them, hi.

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, do you have questions about your period?

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_03]: No.

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Get away from me.

[01:03:08] [SPEAKER_03]: I went to Catholic school so I don't know any parts of the human body or how

[01:03:12] [SPEAKER_03]: any of it works, but sure.

[01:03:14] [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_01]: You they didn't help.

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Boy, I'm just being sacrilegious today.

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't point to the body of Christ and teach you that way.

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no.

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_03]: They just they said, don't touch any of that.

[01:03:27] Yes.

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_03]: You're like, all right, cool.

[01:03:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_03]: That's like those nuns, they're married to him.

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_03]: He's theirs and that was it.

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. What's the deal?

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_01]: The nuns are married to Jesus, but what are monks doing?

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Their brothers like brothers, brothers are all priests.

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_03]: So they're like, they're like, but yeah, they say they're married.

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if they actually, God, it's creepy if they are.

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think they, I don't know.

[01:03:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like that's something we all say, but maybe isn't real realistically true.

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I, I went to the Vatican two years ago, that same Italy trip, and I was like,

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot priests and nuns existed until I got here.

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I forgot these were things.

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like a lot of them.

[01:04:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_03]: There's so many of them here.

[01:04:13] [SPEAKER_03]: They're running around.

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah.

[01:04:15] [SPEAKER_03]: That's just a part of life.

[01:04:17] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a thing people become weird.

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_01]: It's so fascinating.

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_01]: The women have to be married to Christ, but the guys just get to be bros with Christ?

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Yeah.

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a bad system.

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a great system.

[01:04:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's the only organized religion that's a problem.

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The rest of them are.

[01:04:38] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. The rest of them.

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_03]: I was, I was right.

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_03]: My childhood best friends.

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_03]: This is just a non-sequiturized, nothing to do with anything.

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_03]: My childhood best friends, dad was a Catholic priest.

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_03]: There were a limited number of Catholic priests who were Lutherans first

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_03]: and then were allowed to become Catholic when the Catholic priest had really needed

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_03]: priests. So I grew up in a very weird situation where my priest was also my best

[01:05:00] [SPEAKER_03]: friends, dad. And like I would like go fishing and see him at home.

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And like he wasn't a priest in my mind, you know?

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So OK, were they still married?

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Was he still married?

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Yeah.

[01:05:12] [SPEAKER_03]: They were married with kids, Catholic priests that were let in, I believe,

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_03]: in the 80s.

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And there were like, I'm not kidding.

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_03]: It was like maybe 15 of them total and he was one of them.

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. That seems like an elite squad.

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was very weird.

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_03]: And it was just like it was just like we need them and Lutherans essentially.

[01:05:30] [SPEAKER_03]: The only thing that the only difference in belief is like one thing with communion

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_03]: and whether or not priests can be married.

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_03]: So like get on in here, buddy.

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Bring your eight kids in.

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Because of course, you know, like yeah, I mean, yeah.

[01:05:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_01]: What are religions are really into the kids thing?

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, if you can, if you could, if I could make,

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_03]: if I could go out there and make more people to like my sketch team,

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I would do that.

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the proselytizing of the sketch group is tough.

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_03]: If comics figured out that we could just like generate our fans,

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_03]: we have all the bits and pieces to make them.

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Man, our shows would be a lot more full.

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_03]: It'd be pretty great.

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: They would probably look louder though as your audience is younger.

[01:06:23] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah. Yeah.

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_03]: And see in that cycle is how you get to having like the hey kids,

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER_03]: what's your puberty?

[01:06:31] [SPEAKER_03]: That's it.

[01:06:32] [SPEAKER_03]: That process.

[01:06:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey kids, what's your puberty like?

[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God.

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I just assumed that those performers drank heavily every night.

[01:06:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, as they go from junior high to junior high.

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_03]: I hope they were living rough.

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I hope they were on the road like they're like really traveling around the

[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_03]: country doing that.

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_03]: I expect it.

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I think that what a fun.

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_03]: I guarantee you there's wild sort of because I was also like they must have

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_03]: been so bored so often.

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, like, you know, we didn't all have smartphones in our pockets

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_03]: and they're just like, yeah, man, we're just here.

[01:07:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Where were we today?

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Podum Town.

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_03]: Mobile.

[01:07:08] [SPEAKER_03]: We're in Mobile today.

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_03]: All right, man, we're in Tulsa next week.

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, I think this is great.

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Like for like 23, if there if there's any of them like in their 30s, it's like,

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_03]: oh, brother, you got to move on.

[01:07:22] [SPEAKER_03]: You got to you got to do something else.

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. Yeah.

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You made some bad choices in life.

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_03]: The people performing that are not the people you necessarily want talking

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_03]: to your kids about puberty.

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_01]: But this isn't a bunch of desperate actors.

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_03]: This is we found a group of aspiring med students who were also aspiring actors

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_03]: to do this. It's the perfect group.

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's exactly.

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, their medical training is all for

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: not because the only question they ever had is.

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_03]: This you did.

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_03]: That's so funny.

[01:07:58] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to be thinking about that.

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_03]: What's while is that as a joke that's so good that I will now be thinking

[01:08:03] [SPEAKER_03]: about it fully like three steps removed from it.

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_03]: That's so funny.

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_03]: That's so funny.

[01:08:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah.

[01:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: It was like the timing was great.

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It was he was pretty solid.

[01:08:18] [SPEAKER_01]: But also I felt where is he now add for that?

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a Jimmy Fallon real estate agent.

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Of course he is.

[01:08:27] [SPEAKER_03]: Those guys are funny.

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Those guys are classically funny.

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a funny job.

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just bits, bits, bits, improv, improv, improv.

[01:08:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I felt so bad for the performers at the time because it was just like,

[01:08:43] [SPEAKER_01]: boy, howdy, this is their life.

[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I was like, oh boy, this is their life.

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Well,

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_01]: like if I don't play my cards right, this could be my life.

[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And at the time as a junior high kid, I was like, I hate junior high kids.

[01:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I want out of here.

[01:09:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? Yeah.

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[01:09:04] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they should play it the other way where it's like, this is what could happen

[01:09:07] [SPEAKER_00]: to you if you had like.

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't take your puberty seriously.

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to become one of these.

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like straight.

[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, yeah.

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_03]: What are you what am I supposed to do?

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_03]: This is just a thing that's having to get it together.

[01:09:24] Yeah.

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_01]: You better learn your anatomy, OK?

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Top to bottom or you could be up here next week.

[01:09:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Where's your uterus pipsqueak?

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[01:09:37] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Point to your European too.

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's really funny.

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_03]: That's really funny.

[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm really scared to try that.

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, junior high.

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_00]: I know. So Wednesday.

[01:10:01] [SPEAKER_00]: So with something that we like to talk about is our work and how, you know,

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_00]: sometimes how mental health and work happen or not happen.

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Is there something?

[01:10:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're pointing, but I can't like I'm forming a sentence and questioning

[01:10:16] [SPEAKER_01]: my ability. Oh, I was pointing at you like, yeah, this is great.

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Keep going. I like it.

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just wanted to know like how how you overcome any sort of anxiety

[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_00]: about your work as a comedian or writer or anything that you're doing.

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Performing. I don't know if I do very well, honestly.

[01:10:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Like when I was doing so when I did improv, I still like to this day,

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll still get super nervous before every single.

[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_03]: I've actually I was just thinking about like, man,

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I wonder how much better an improviser I would have been had I had at a van

[01:10:51] [SPEAKER_03]: when I was like trying to do it for like just a little bit to take the edge off.

[01:10:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I bet it would have really helped.

[01:10:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Mostly I try to do things enough that then they become normalized and then

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think about it because otherwise it will kind of consume me

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_03]: or give myself enough.

[01:11:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I keep myself so busy that I can't ever like actually take the time to be

[01:11:11] [SPEAKER_03]: like, oh, this is a big thing that's happening

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_03]: with a lot of like with performance still occasionally with like music stuff.

[01:11:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll still get nervous occasionally before big things, but in general,

[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: it's all just so normalized that or the other half of this is I'll just drink

[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_03]: a bunch of beer beforehand, you know, just self-medicate.

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah. And then the ADD part is just like I make I try to make myself

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_03]: as accountable to as many people as possible and keep myself as organized

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_03]: as possible so that like if you know, like if I'm sweating all the small stuff,

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_03]: then the big stuff starts taking care of itself, which is not necessarily healthy.

[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_03]: But it does work for me.

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. And so is it was the ADHD or ADD diagnosis recent?

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_03]: No, I was on like, I mean at like 15.

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_03]: So it was in the height of it, but it really did hit pretty hard for me.

[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like this this is definitely a thing going on.

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I quit taking my medication in college because it formed me.

[01:12:09] [SPEAKER_03]: I was two different people.

[01:12:11] [SPEAKER_03]: It felt like I was like the me on ADD medication was like,

[01:12:14] [SPEAKER_03]: could write a paper if I needed to do the stuff.

[01:12:18] [SPEAKER_03]: But the me off it was fun.

[01:12:20] [SPEAKER_03]: So I was like, OK, I got to figure out other coping mechanisms.

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_03]: So I haven't actually been for like

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_03]: medicated for it in like 20 years.

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_00]: But you're doing well.

[01:12:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing OK.

[01:12:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I could be doing.

[01:12:32] [SPEAKER_03]: Like there are times where it's a lot of like, like I have,

[01:12:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess I can't.

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to think there's anything that I can actually show.

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a person who has like a lot of like,

[01:12:40] [SPEAKER_03]: I have lines and lines of Post-it notes in order everywhere.

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_03]: Always like to do this, like this type of stuff,

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_03]: because it's a lot of finding like, oh, ripping a Post-it note off and crunching

[01:12:50] [SPEAKER_03]: it up satisfies my brain.

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_03]: And then I'll do whatever to get to that point.

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And it keeps me organized.

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_03]: So and then now my current I'm editing for a small media company.

[01:13:02] [SPEAKER_03]: And like it's so much direct like,

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_03]: here's a task that needs to be done in an hour.

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Take care of it.

[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_03]: That it's like quick hits of that,

[01:13:12] [SPEAKER_03]: which is great, which is perfect for me.

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Like it's not two months of work leading up to something.

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. Yeah.

[01:13:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Those long deadlines.

[01:13:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, because I won't do it until the day before.

[01:13:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I just know I've also gotten very good with being like someone

[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_03]: to be like, isn't that thing doing?

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, yeah, sounds like I'm going to do it two hours before it's due.

[01:13:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Why am I not going to stress about it until then?

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_03]: If I know I'm going to do that, let's just do it.

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[01:13:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly what Gabby, your ADHD therapist told you about to do.

[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she said procrastination is part of the process.

[01:13:44] [SPEAKER_01]: So don't be yourself.

[01:13:46] [SPEAKER_01]: You could beat yourself up for it or you could just be like, yeah,

[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_01]: so what's going to happen?

[01:13:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, there's like two for me.

[01:13:51] [SPEAKER_03]: It's two very much two buckets.

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like half the time I'm like, let's just do it now and I'll get it done.

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_03]: And then the other half of the time I'm like, I'm just not OK, fine.

[01:13:59] [SPEAKER_03]: Then it's just not going to happen until

[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_03]: until it needs to.

[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And then that's it.

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_03]: And then if it's not good, then I'll redo it later.

[01:14:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Like that's what's going to be.

[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so relatable.

[01:14:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes. Yeah, very relatable.

[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And also like no judgment.

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Like so you're not it's like there's a little bit of a criticism that I heard

[01:14:17] [SPEAKER_00]: in when you were talking about your

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_00]: mentors and being able to handle them well or not well or not doing well.

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, have you checked in with that kind of judgment to yourself?

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_00]: In terms of?

[01:14:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I try not to.

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It's what I mean well or not well.

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Like for me, it's like like well, it's like always it's always like very subjective

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_03]: as to like how it affects me, like am I happy or not?

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Is it helping me or hurting me?

[01:14:46] [SPEAKER_03]: Like like sometimes like, yeah, you can do a thing in a different way that

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_03]: someone might not do it, but I don't want it to be impacting my life in a

[01:14:52] [SPEAKER_03]: negative way. So like anything like that, I would be like, that's not good.

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_03]: But also what is a negative way is fully up to me to decide?

[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. So I try not to like pass judgment on stuff.

[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, I do think I'm very lucky in that like I have like a pretty good

[01:15:08] [SPEAKER_03]: coping like I have like social anxiety, but I also cope with it really well by

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER_03]: being too much. I turned it on extra

[01:15:17] [SPEAKER_03]: which works for me.

[01:15:19] [SPEAKER_03]: But also it's like makes it very like my partner has brought up when we first

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_03]: started moved in together, she was just like and like we'd been dating for a long

[01:15:26] [SPEAKER_03]: time. So she knew I wasn't like fully on all the time.

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_03]: But I remember the first time she saw me like she was like, oh, you're like,

[01:15:32] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, no, I'm super introverted when I'm not this, I'm not here.

[01:15:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_03]: And so I'm trying to be more OK with like, OK, yeah,

[01:15:42] [SPEAKER_03]: there's just going to be balances to everything and not yeah,

[01:15:45] [SPEAKER_03]: not passing judgment on if also if I'm not doing well, being like, OK,

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not doing well.

[01:15:49] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm also in therapy routinely, which really helps.

[01:15:51] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I found it's not even the going to therapy.

[01:15:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes it's the writing stuff down to talk about in therapy will make me be

[01:15:57] [SPEAKER_03]: like, that's what's happening. Cool.

[01:16:00] [SPEAKER_03]: Because I have I'll I'll forget in a minute.

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, this thing is huge.

[01:16:05] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I talked to my therapist.

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, oh yeah, by the way, I had surgery.

[01:16:08] [SPEAKER_03]: She was like, what?

[01:16:10] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, OK.

[01:16:14] [SPEAKER_03]: So I write everything down, try to as I'm as the weeks go on.

[01:16:18] [SPEAKER_03]: And then that keeps like writing it down is like the first step.

[01:16:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Of that so that like, yeah, it's like it's like a pre therapy where I'm like,

[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, well, that's what's happening.

[01:16:28] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, now I know that's what's happening.

[01:16:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, now I don't need to like stress about it or whatever.

[01:16:32] [SPEAKER_00]: It goes a long yeah, that's actually really that's a great idea.

[01:16:35] [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, that was that's a great idea because I constantly forget

[01:16:38] [SPEAKER_00]: about things to talk to my psychiatrist about.

[01:16:42] [SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like if I did write it down, maybe that would help me.

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of at the end going, oh, wait, there was this one problem.

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't like when I'm in the moment,

[01:16:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just like, oh, I'm really feeling this or oh, this thing really upset me.

[01:16:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I know me that I'll just like like it's we don't remember bad things.

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_03]: We try our brains want to forget negative stuff.

[01:17:01] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. So I'm like, well, I have to I might as well like,

[01:17:03] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, it takes me two seconds to get or even saying to my phone like,

[01:17:06] [SPEAKER_03]: hey, take a note of this and then move on.

[01:17:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Helps me a lot.

[01:17:11] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's made a huge difference in my therapy.

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It's great.

[01:17:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Do you guys do any like kind of therapies like homework practices or anything?

[01:17:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, wait, go ahead. Go ahead.

[01:17:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, I was going to say like ERP exposure response prevention or act.

[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_03]: Or my therapist says a lot of those things and I don't remember.

[01:17:31] [SPEAKER_03]: Like we I think she does.

[01:17:33] [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's I think C.

[01:17:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Wait, CPT, CBT, CBT, I think is a thing that

[01:17:40] [SPEAKER_03]: she has like is working on.

[01:17:43] [SPEAKER_03]: But it's mostly like I'm pretty good at being like, hey, this thing sucks.

[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_03]: And I should probably push myself to do it more.

[01:17:51] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, yep, that sounds good.

[01:17:54] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, OK, cool.

[01:17:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I find for me therapy is 90 percent

[01:17:59] [SPEAKER_03]: because mine's like really very specifically with a couple of emotional

[01:18:02] [SPEAKER_03]: things and other stuff.

[01:18:04] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a lot of I'm like just talking about a thing.

[01:18:08] [SPEAKER_03]: Just forcing yourself to have time to talk about stuff is like half of it.

[01:18:12] [SPEAKER_03]: Setting aside time to genuinely think about where my mental health is

[01:18:16] [SPEAKER_03]: and where my head spaces and process shitty things or good things that are

[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_03]: happening is most of the job.

[01:18:23] [SPEAKER_03]: And usually all I mean, we all know that there's like times where you talk to

[01:18:26] [SPEAKER_03]: a therapist and you're like, well, I've been here for 15 minutes.

[01:18:28] [SPEAKER_03]: I guess we're done, right?

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, but.

[01:18:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, it's mostly like when people like, why do you do that?

[01:18:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, because it's just

[01:18:36] [SPEAKER_03]: you work out this is just working out for like your emotions in your brain.

[01:18:40] [SPEAKER_03]: That's purely like it's just set aside a time for it.

[01:18:43] [SPEAKER_03]: So we don't do a lot of that.

[01:18:45] [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of homework stuff.

[01:18:47] [SPEAKER_03]: But it will come up that it's mostly, hey, drink water and go on walks.

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_03]: That's actually yeah, that's what it's like.

[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_03]: Make sure you drink enough water.

[01:18:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Make sure you're doing yoga or going on walks because surprise,

[01:18:58] [SPEAKER_03]: surprise when you do those things, you feel way better.

[01:19:01] [SPEAKER_03]: And yeah.

[01:19:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:19:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So true.

[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's really annoying.

[01:19:07] [SPEAKER_03]: It's very annoying how like making

[01:19:08] [SPEAKER_03]: because I hate working out.

[01:19:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I hate doing anything but getting just sweating.

[01:19:13] [SPEAKER_03]: You just do your body starts for me.

[01:19:16] [SPEAKER_03]: My body starts it's night and day and it's very frustrating.

[01:19:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:19:20] [SPEAKER_03]: Stupid that a lot makes me feel better.

[01:19:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes.

[01:19:26] [SPEAKER_01]: And it does.

[01:19:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It really does.

[01:19:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Like I can see the list of annoying people who have told me to do that

[01:19:32] [SPEAKER_01]: throughout my life, you know, and the fact that I'm doing it now and it's

[01:19:36] [SPEAKER_01]: helping, I'm like, well, I'm never telling them.

[01:19:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Oh no, no one can ever know.

[01:19:40] [SPEAKER_03]: No one can ever know.

[01:19:42] [SPEAKER_03]: It's the yeah, walks or like I got real into yoga over covid and like was doing it

[01:19:48] [SPEAKER_03]: every morning and that was like, it was just like, and for me, it's also

[01:19:53] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure this is like ADD stuff.

[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_03]: It's like routine is everything, like really having like an actual framework

[01:19:59] [SPEAKER_03]: for what my day is going to look like.

[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_03]: We're in my this is my office right now and this room exists.

[01:20:05] [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's a room that doesn't exist for this part, but it's my office

[01:20:09] [SPEAKER_03]: because I was like, I was working from home and I was kind of like all over the place.

[01:20:13] [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, I need an office room, like I need a room that I get up and I go

[01:20:16] [SPEAKER_03]: down to and then I go to work and like there's stairs like for all of covid.

[01:20:22] [SPEAKER_03]: I would like wake up and like shower and be in new clothes and then put my bag on

[01:20:27] [SPEAKER_03]: and then walk down the stairs and like have water.

[01:20:30] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm at work and it really makes a huge difference in like how my brain

[01:20:36] [SPEAKER_03]: works and how effective I am and everything.

[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_03]: It's annoying. It's so stupid.

[01:20:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, totally.

[01:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: It's like this balance between the routine and also

[01:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: what are the joys I think of ADD or ADHD is the spontaneity.

[01:20:51] [SPEAKER_01]: No, but it's like you got to have that balance.

[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, it's just chaos.

[01:20:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I can just I mean, I'll get lost in I still try to have a day.

[01:21:01] [SPEAKER_03]: If I can a day a week, we're like nothing or fully unstructured is the best.

[01:21:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Like like not even like not even I'm not meeting people for food.

[01:21:11] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not doing anything this day is going to get thrown away, fully wasted.

[01:21:17] [SPEAKER_03]: I might even watch a bunch of TV.

[01:21:18] [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like let's just like really do nothing with the day because like that's

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_03]: also I'm like I can have a very productive week, but then I also need a day

[01:21:26] [SPEAKER_03]: where like nothing happens and all the kind of upset at the end.

[01:21:30] [SPEAKER_03]: I'll be like, I didn't do anything today.

[01:21:32] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, no, that's the plan.

[01:21:33] [SPEAKER_03]: That's why you did that's the whole point.

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's no doing nothing is something.

[01:21:39] [SPEAKER_03]: It really is productive.

[01:21:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so yeah, so impressed by you, dude.

[01:21:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You've got a dial on a lot of levels, my friends.

[01:21:48] [SPEAKER_03]: I hope and we'll see what should be fully fall off a cliff tomorrow.

[01:21:53] [SPEAKER_03]: But.

[01:21:54] [SPEAKER_03]: No, these things, I don't know.

[01:21:56] [SPEAKER_03]: It just seems like yeah, it's like but it's so easy for that.

[01:21:59] [SPEAKER_03]: I was also, you know, I've like I've been had a guy was unemployed

[01:22:02] [SPEAKER_03]: for most of last year and like had plenty of those like, oh, things are falling apart.

[01:22:07] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, OK, I got to put the gotta put these things back together.

[01:22:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, oh, I got the couch is not a workspace.

[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_03]: That's not that's not where work happens.

[01:22:14] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just that simple.

[01:22:15] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but yeah, structure.

[01:22:18] [SPEAKER_03]: That's a structure.

[01:22:19] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, sure.

[01:22:20] [SPEAKER_03]: And out of it.

[01:22:23] [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that's it.

[01:22:25] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the other sponsor of the show is structure.

[01:22:30] [SPEAKER_00]: We need it keeps buildings up.

[01:22:32] [SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

[01:22:33] [SPEAKER_00]: Keeps our schedules in line.

[01:22:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Keeps the mental moving forward.

[01:22:39] [SPEAKER_03]: Like dropping out of our brains.

[01:22:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Do you feel like sometimes like when I feel like I'll have,

[01:22:45] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, it comes and goes, but I've had a couple of bad things like the

[01:22:49] [SPEAKER_03]: days of it where you fully lose a day to it.

[01:22:51] [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like this is just wow, I'm just going to I'm just going to feel

[01:22:55] [SPEAKER_03]: like nothing's ever going to work right for this day.

[01:22:58] [SPEAKER_03]: It's just going to happen.

[01:23:00] [SPEAKER_03]: But when those happen, a like I do, I try to be absurd, anything of like or all

[01:23:04] [SPEAKER_03]: a lot of times be like you didn't feel like this yesterday and you know,

[01:23:09] [SPEAKER_03]: you're not going to feel like this tomorrow.

[01:23:10] [SPEAKER_03]: Like a lot of times will be like what's different between today and yesterday?

[01:23:14] [SPEAKER_03]: And the answer is always nothing.

[01:23:15] [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, OK, so it's my brain.

[01:23:17] [SPEAKER_03]: We're talking about a brain thing the same way as like if my arm was sore,

[01:23:21] [SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't be like pissed off at my arm.

[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_03]: I just like my arm sore.

[01:23:25] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, what do I do to make my arm not sore?

[01:23:28] [SPEAKER_03]: How do I comfort my arm?

[01:23:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Or maybe I just put my arm in a place where it's can rest.

[01:23:33] [SPEAKER_03]: So I'll like try to be like, oh, today's a brain day.

[01:23:37] [SPEAKER_03]: There's nothing I can do about it.

[01:23:38] [SPEAKER_03]: OK, well, you know what?

[01:23:40] [SPEAKER_03]: Let's just like give it a break and,

[01:23:42] [SPEAKER_03]: you know, if I can drink a bunch of water and watch a dumb show, then that's

[01:23:45] [SPEAKER_03]: what's going to but it's another part of your body.

[01:23:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I think we forget that and we'll be like, yeah,

[01:23:50] [SPEAKER_03]: and you're not in control.

[01:23:51] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, in no way can in control of it the same way.

[01:23:54] [SPEAKER_03]: A bunch of other things.

[01:23:55] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for me.

[01:23:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you do a fair amount of like talking back to

[01:24:01] [SPEAKER_01]: whatever it is, the OCD, the anxiety, the da, da, da, da, da, which is really cool.

[01:24:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it I mean from my perspective of therapy and whatever else,

[01:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like if you say the thing out loud or you talk back to it,

[01:24:15] [SPEAKER_01]: it's like putting distance between you and the thing that's causing suffering

[01:24:21] [SPEAKER_01]: and allowing yourself just that much space can then put it all in perspective.

[01:24:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's it's I mean, fall off the cliff tomorrow.

[01:24:30] [SPEAKER_01]: But right now you're being very impressive.

[01:24:32] [SPEAKER_01]: It feels thanks.

[01:24:33] [SPEAKER_03]: It feels good. It's like, yeah, I think it's important to like it's not like a

[01:24:37] [SPEAKER_03]: it we like all of the mental stuff feels like it can be like this isn't a

[01:24:42] [SPEAKER_03]: choice anyone made.

[01:24:44] [SPEAKER_03]: No one woke up and went, oh, man, I would love.

[01:24:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I would love to be so anxious that I can't get out of bed today or I'd love to be

[01:24:50] [SPEAKER_03]: so depressed that I can't but and that's not to say I think because then

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_03]: like everyone puts like, you know, like then there's these value judgments on it

[01:24:58] [SPEAKER_03]: and there's all this like, oh, well, and sometimes like if you're not

[01:25:01] [SPEAKER_03]: addressing what you're doing, that's one thing.

[01:25:03] [SPEAKER_03]: If you're like not actively trying, understanding that you have to deal

[01:25:07] [SPEAKER_03]: with this thing like at like the same way.

[01:25:10] [SPEAKER_03]: If you if I was born with like a clubfoot or something,

[01:25:13] [SPEAKER_03]: I can't control that, but I can control like how I respond to it and how I advance

[01:25:18] [SPEAKER_03]: through it. I think it's all the exact same.

[01:25:21] [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't need to blame myself for feeling like shit because

[01:25:25] [SPEAKER_03]: I got drunk and man, I was dumb or whatever.

[01:25:29] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, oh actually that I can't that's not actually on me.

[01:25:32] [SPEAKER_03]: But like if I wake up and I just feel like, oh, I'm never going to like

[01:25:36] [SPEAKER_03]: be able to do X, Y or Z.

[01:25:38] [SPEAKER_03]: That's not real.

[01:25:40] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's OK. It's OK to be like, well, that's what you're feeling.

[01:25:42] [SPEAKER_03]: It's my scream, you know, like and you'll still feel it.

[01:25:46] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to really help, but maybe don't have a bourbon.

[01:25:50] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe don't, you know, and talking back to it for me really works.

[01:25:54] [SPEAKER_03]: That's like a very in like a thing I have to do for me.

[01:26:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's so cool.

[01:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Heather, do you have any other questions?

[01:26:07] [SPEAKER_01]: My friends.

[01:26:10] [SPEAKER_00]: No, I think we talked.

[01:26:12] [SPEAKER_00]: We talked a lot and it was good.

[01:26:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, long winded.

[01:26:17] [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[01:26:19] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we could keep talking for forever.

[01:26:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, oh boy, we're going to have to make this like a three-parter episode.

[01:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: I know.

[01:26:29] [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, if you come up with other stuff, you're more

[01:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: and welcome to come back on the show.

[01:26:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love you.

[01:26:37] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to develop some new issues and I'll bring them back.

[01:26:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or you know, you have creative stuff you want to promote.

[01:26:43] [SPEAKER_01]: You could also do that, too.

[01:26:45] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Or I mean, if you make some discoveries in mental health stuff, too, you know,

[01:26:51] [SPEAKER_00]: then, you know, or not a new drug.

[01:26:54] [SPEAKER_03]: You guys don't know that I'm actually paid by Ativan.

[01:26:56] [SPEAKER_00]: So, exactly.

[01:26:57] [SPEAKER_03]: Next time I'll be like, it's actually Ativan.

[01:26:59] [SPEAKER_03]: And we all call Ativan the old Xanax because that's really weird.

[01:27:03] [SPEAKER_03]: You know, exactly.

[01:27:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Now we're going to have a problem because I'll finally get sponsorship from Xanax

[01:27:08] [SPEAKER_01]: and then it's going to be like a thing.

[01:27:10] [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be like the sharks in the jet.

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Is it a fail or a situation?

[01:27:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, yes.

[01:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Or it's a new coke.

[01:27:20] [SPEAKER_00]: Classic Coke situation, you know.

[01:27:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Ativan, please.

[01:27:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, don't say.

[01:27:26] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, Heather, take that out of the podcast because that's a good business idea.

[01:27:31] [SPEAKER_01]: We're making crystal at a man.

[01:27:32] [SPEAKER_02]: Crystal Ativan.

[01:27:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Listen, you're in LA.

[01:27:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Can you think of like all the people who like swear by crystals and then also

[01:27:40] [SPEAKER_01]: the Venn diagram of those with Ativan?

[01:27:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Come on, man.

[01:27:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. Oh, it was like, oh, you're saying like it's just a crystal.

[01:27:47] [SPEAKER_03]: Like I have a crystal that's in the shape of like a crystal.

[01:27:50] [SPEAKER_03]: But if you just look at it's like a good hit of Ativan.

[01:27:53] [SPEAKER_03]: That's really something.

[01:27:54] [SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of something that would be great.

[01:27:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? Uh-huh.

[01:27:58] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I leave it like a ring pop kind of thing.

[01:28:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[01:28:02] [SPEAKER_03]: One of those.

[01:28:06] [SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm wondering if TSA would like get wise to it.

[01:28:10] [SPEAKER_01]: But then I'm like, does TSA take away crystals if you try and bring a crystal

[01:28:14] [SPEAKER_03]: on a plane? Maybe how sharp, how sharp is the crystals?

[01:28:17] [SPEAKER_03]: The question.

[01:28:18] [SPEAKER_03]: Fair. Although I flew last weekend with a

[01:28:23] [SPEAKER_03]: like fully had like a razor blade like for my shaving that I didn't know was in my thing.

[01:28:29] [SPEAKER_03]: And I have TSA precheck and I'm like, are they not checking that much?

[01:28:32] [SPEAKER_03]: There was like a legit razor blade in my.

[01:28:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Not a problem. Yes. Not a problem.

[01:28:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wow. Yes.

[01:28:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And I look like I'm Arab.

[01:28:39] [SPEAKER_03]: They supposed to catch me.

[01:28:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I flew to Hawaii and back and then unpacked and realized I had brought a

[01:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: six inch switchblade with me on the plane, not even in a checked luggage on the plane.

[01:28:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I get that.

[01:28:56] [SPEAKER_01]: It's all quite, quite privileged, I guess.

[01:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. They're like, she doesn't know how to use that.

[01:29:02] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. I thought you were gonna say you had a gatling gun or something.

[01:29:04] [SPEAKER_03]: I had a full assault rifle in my bag.

[01:29:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I had three and they only caught one still at me on the plane.

[01:29:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. I don't know what we're doing with TSA.

[01:29:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. So I think that's a good place to leave it, bringing weapons on planes.

[01:29:23] [SPEAKER_03]: That's right. Yep.

[01:29:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. Distributing planes.

[01:29:26] [SPEAKER_03]: We came all the way back to planes.

[01:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. That's all.

[01:29:31] [SPEAKER_00]: We're we're the good callbacks.

[01:29:32] [SPEAKER_01]: We're the good callbacks.

[01:29:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That's our other name of the podcast.

[01:29:36] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know what I was saying there.

[01:29:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was enjoying all of this.

[01:29:43] [SPEAKER_01]: As am I.

[01:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly what I was just going to say.

[01:29:46] [SPEAKER_01]: It's been an absolute pleasure having you on the podcast.

[01:29:49] [SPEAKER_03]: It's been so fun to be here.

[01:29:51] [SPEAKER_03]: This has been a blast.

[01:29:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Good. I'm glad that Ativan is making you say that.

[01:29:56] [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I've not had Ativan in actually it's been a minute.

[01:30:00] [SPEAKER_03]: I haven't had it.

[01:30:01] [SPEAKER_03]: I thought I was going to need it on these last flights and I didn't.

[01:30:03] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's been a while.

[01:30:05] [SPEAKER_03]: It's been at least three weeks.

[01:30:07] [SPEAKER_03]: I think they injected me with some in the hospital.

[01:30:09] [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe that was it.

[01:30:10] [SPEAKER_03]: So it's been a minute.

[01:30:10] [SPEAKER_03]: It's been a hot minute.

[01:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh.

[01:30:12] [SPEAKER_01]: OK, just real quick.

[01:30:14] [SPEAKER_01]: The injecting of Ativan, I had a four hour panic attack once and then ended up in the

[01:30:19] [SPEAKER_01]: ER and blah, blah, blah, blah.

[01:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:30:21] [SPEAKER_01]: But they did the injection of Ativan and within 15 minutes, my life went from like,

[01:30:27] [SPEAKER_01]: well, I need to stop being on this mortal plane to everything's great.

[01:30:32] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's all love each other.

[01:30:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's the best.

[01:30:35] [SPEAKER_03]: I feel the same way about morphine.

[01:30:38] [SPEAKER_03]: I got morphine when I first went to the emergency room this time because

[01:30:41] [SPEAKER_03]: like I was a significant amount of pain.

[01:30:44] [SPEAKER_03]: And if you've never had it, you're really missing out.

[01:30:49] [SPEAKER_03]: You're really it's truly I was like, this is I get it why they gave this to the

[01:30:55] [SPEAKER_03]: dudes like who are about to die in World War Two because this would make you feel

[01:30:58] [SPEAKER_03]: fine about it. You're like, yeah, whatever.

[01:31:00] [SPEAKER_03]: This is the best.

[01:31:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's the closing message you want everybody to end on.

[01:31:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Like come up with some kind of quote unquote gallbladder issue.

[01:31:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

[01:31:13] [SPEAKER_03]: Why about what you're doing?

[01:31:16] [SPEAKER_03]: Pretend they don't know and just hold your belly and say it hurts so bad

[01:31:22] [SPEAKER_03]: and then get some morphine.

[01:31:24] [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, get yours.

[01:31:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what that's Winston loves.

[01:31:27] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I'm probably probably loves more.

[01:31:33] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a perfect place to end it.

[01:31:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you so much for being on the podcast.

[01:31:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you so much for having me.

[01:31:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Bye, everyone.

[01:31:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, bye everybody.

[01:31:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye bye.

[01:31:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the end of the show.

[01:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: This is Gabby Blackman and this is Heather and I.

[01:31:56] [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for listening to Comically Exposed.

[01:31:58] [SPEAKER_01]: We're just a little show with two creators who edit and produce each episode.

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[01:32:50] [SPEAKER_00]: In your face, Miriam.