Episode 26
Comically ExposedMarch 05, 202500:41:14

Episode 26

We're finally back! Did you miss us? Well, we missed you.

Nothing makes you feel funnier than powerlessness. We chat about the struggles of ERP, accepting uncertainty and overthinking paralysis. Gabbie brings up the phenomenon of experiencing less OCD while traveling and the crows she is trying to befriend. Also, Heather needs to stop thinking.

Next episode will be our interview with Angie Hawkins.

//Therapy acronyms mentioned//

ACT: Acceptance & Commitment Therapy

ADHD: Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder

DSM-5: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition

ERP: Exposure & Response Prevention

//Therapy terms mentioned//

Anxiety, autism, compulsions, depression, imaginal, intrusive thoughts, overthinking, rigid thinking, rules, self-compassion, talk therapy, uncertainty

//Other things mentioned//

Gabbie's Tutors: awesomesaucetutor.com

Lauren Veloski, Writing is Bananas: instagram.com/writingisbananas/

//Connect with Gabbie and Heather//

Instagram: @comicallyexp.podcast

Interwebs (text or voice message): comicallyexposed.com/

Thank you for listening (and reading the show notes)!

//Credits//

Hosts: Gabbie Blachman & Heather Nye

Producer & Graphic Designer: Heather Nye

Music by Gxldxn Fxnch - “Not Like the Other (Instrumental)” (Licensed through Track Club)

Stock Photography by Ferenc Horvath (Unsplash)

Episode 26 Transcript: [🎵 Intro Music] Heather: Welcome, everyone. This is Comically Exposed Episode 26. I'm Heather Nye. I'm your host. And your other host is I see I screwed it up again, but that's okay. Gabbie: No, it's great. I'm Gabbie Blachman. I think that was I think that was good. Heather: I need that reassurance. Gabbie: No, once is assurance. Any more than that. Heather: At least tell me three times, please. Just kidding. Gabbie: Uh huh. Yeah. It was terrible. It was the worst. I think we've caused a genocide. Okay. Anyway. Too soon, Gabbie. Stop making that joke. We're just at the beginning of a podcast after a long hiatus. Oh boy. Heather: Okay. Well, um, just first talking points, we're launching, um, our new episodes on, um, YouTube and, uh, we'll have archived episodes too. So they're only audio only, but, um, you'll have another source to listen to our podcast. Gabbie: YouTube and YouTube Music Mm hmm. Yeah. So, if you guys are just big YouTube heads, and you've been like, why can't I listen to my favorite podcast on YouTube? Your prayers have been answered. Heather: Yes. They have been. Gabbie: It's all gravy from here on out, unless you don't like gravy, in which case it is something else. Heather: Yeah. What's, what's opposite? What's, what's more flavorful than gravy? Gabbie: That's a really good question. I thank you for bringing that up. Um, I would say more flavorful than gravy is probably just. Taking allspice from the cabinet and just doing a couple lines. That's what the kids do. Heather: That's what you're telling all the children to do that listens to our podcast. Gabbie: But listen to our podcast and also the ones that I tutor, uh, because, you know, I'm more than a math and science tutor. I'm also a degenerate that likes to make sure that people are doing terrible things with spices. Heather: Yeah, you're starting a new cinnamon challenge with allspice. Gabbie: I am. And that's called the sassafras challenge. And the thing is, it's very expensive because sassafras is very expensive. So you have to get like. Um, your body's weight worth of it, then actually you just fill up a bathtub and you, you lie in it. It's not that damaging, um, other than to your pocketbook, but I do have stock in sassafras, so. Heather: Just for everyone to know. Gabbie: Just trying to get the word out. Heather: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gabbie: But it is a good supplement for you to rub on your temples. It'll change your face into the face you've always wanted. I don't know what rails we've gone off of. I don't know if we started on them. But here we are. Welcome back everybody. Heather: Yeah, welcome back. Gabbie: I've honestly, I've really missed this podcast. And I've missed talking to you on a regular basis. But there have been very good reasons as to why. Um, we took a break. And then. Had to take a little bit more of a break. Before the podcast, Heather and I were just swapping good old health care stories because Because being a person in a human body in this country is fun. Heather: All we can do is laugh. Gabbie: All you can do is laugh. Very quickly, I got two new pairs of glasses. In none of the paperwork does it tell me which prescription is in which glasses. One is for near sighted things. One is for far sighted things. And, I don't know, I guess it's dealer's choice. I can't tell a huge difference between the two. So, maybe that should tell you. It could be the same prescription. It could just be a, like, wild prank that Kaiser is tossing to me, but at the same time, I was thinking about how, um, like getting an actual diagnosis for whatever it is, whether it's mental health or actual health. Sucks. And most of the time, uh, especially if you're Heather or I, you have already done so much internet research that you show up to the doctor's appointment having more current understanding of the field than they do. Um, yeah. I, I don't know, man. It's 2025. Things are great. Heather: That sounded very convincing. Gabbie: Thank you. Um, well, you know, provided that our listeners are listening semi close to this year, I'm sure they know things are great. That's in quotes, um, or they're listening in the future and they know that this was the salad times before everything really went to shit. Heather: Where, where, you know, the United States was called the United States. Gabbie: Exactly. Yeah, exactly, uh, before the federal government was like annihilated completely and Putin took over and, you know, whatever it is that's coming. Can't wait by the way, super excited. Um, love that Elon guy, just, uh, I can't come up with anything. nice. Every time I see Elon Musk or Trump, and this isn't a political podcast, but here we are. Every time I see them, I involuntarily say out loud, I hate that man. Hate that man. Heather: Mm hmm. Yeah. That's, that's an easy one. I think I say it like every single day, um, at least five times. Yeah. Just as much as the fruits and vegetables I get, my daily dose in my diet. Gabbie: Daily dose. Yeah. It's good. It's super good. Uhya. Okay, listen, I did write down a couple of notes for the episode of things that I wanted to talk about, so I don't know, what the hell, let's jump in. Heather: Yeah, let's jump in. Let's. Gabbie: Actual stuff. So this is. Heather: Jump. Gabbie: This is a podcast about comedy and it is a podcast about OCD. FYI for those of you who have been listening so far and are like, no, it's not. Anyway, I was going to talk about the, a couple of things. One is, uh, my student who's trying ERP for the first time and is really struggling with it. And I was thinking about how everybody I know struggles with ERP. Heather: Yes. Gabbie: Like to begin with. Um, And, uh, feels like it's not gonna work, feels like maybe it'll work, but not for me, I'm a real bad case, you know, um. And then usually get some relief from it or for me, like a ton of relief. But then I've been talking to their parents recently and now listen, I love that mental health is out there and everywhere. Um, that YouTube and TikTok and Twitter is all able for us to see people going through different things and hearing their lived experiences and medical professionals and all of that, I think is super important. Heather: Yeah, because nobody is the same, right? Gabbie: A thousand percent. I also wonder, like, if you are in the midst of suffering, which I am very lucky to be in sort of, you know, uh, recovery or maintenance phase, right? But if you're in the midst of suffering, it can be so tempting to try and figure out the correct diagnosis. Heather: Ooh. Gabbie: Did that hit a chord? Heather: Oh yeah, I know, I know that one very well. Very, very well. Yes, yes. Gabbie: And it's a combination of actually having healthcare professionals, which is a giant hurdle in its own fucking right, and then having ones that you both respect and feel comfortable being completely yourself in front of or being completely honest or whatever so that they can help you. So those are those two hurdles. And then also whether or not they've been trained in all the different potential diagnoses or illness or whatever that one might have. So that is so much. And so I know why going to the internet is both helpful, but then I also worry. Heather: Yes. Gabbie: Like, what if people are cycling through diagnoses too quickly? Heather: Yeah. Yeah. Or, or getting information that's based on papers that were discredited. Gabbie: Right. Heather: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Gabbie: Yeah. Or, you know, just, and I think you and I have talked about this before as well, which is like the DSM-5 now has so many separate diagnosis of different distinct diseases, even though they have a lot of overlapping symptoms. Heather: Yeah. Yeah. Gabbie: And so whether or not, I've had really good therapist who said, maybe the diagnosis, the label, is not as important as looking at all the symptoms and figuring out what treatments might work. Heather: Yes. Yeah. Gabbie: Which I love. Heather: I agree. Um, because I, I fall in that same vein, I think, with my therapist. Because I always bring something up and, um, it becomes an interesting discussion because he does hear me out. Um, and we might argue about something, but it always comes back to, you know, does it really matter to know the final diagnosis? You know, if these are the elements that we know, you know, it's like, these are the things that we know that are happening. Gabbie: Yes. Heather: These are the treatments that can help with these elements. You know? Gabbie: Yes. Heather: And so that's that part of like accepting uncertainty. That's been like truly very helpful for me. Um, because I always fall back. You know, it's like, you know, do I have ADHD? Am I autistic? Is it really OCD? Do I have enough OCD? You know, it's always these little things, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gabbie: That should be our very first merch, is a t shirt that says, Do I have enough OCD? Question mark. And on the back, uncertainty rules. Thumbs up. Yeah, exactly. For me as well, figuring out that it was uncertainty that I couldn't handle that was causing me or either causing me the anxiety or the anxiety was causing the fact that there was uncertainty in the world to be not tolerating, not tolerable, not tolerable. Like. Heather: Well, it's to satisfy that itch, right? That, that feeling that icky, like, it's like, what is that? It's like, is that really going to solve it? Is that really, you know, like all that stuff? And then you go down this little trail of thoughts, you know, that ends up, you know, becoming a compulsion or is a compulsion, right? From the initial intrusive thought that brought you to that uncertain thinking. So. Gabbie: A thousand percent. Heather: Yeah. Gabbie: Yeah. So I guess, everybody, we're changing our podcast from OCD to, uh, zeh. You know? Heather: Yeah, and that's the thing about uncertainty, is that what it ends up causing is this kind of rigid thinking. Because you're just trying to be protective. You're trying to go, it's like an if then statement. You know, it's like, it can be solved if I know this is the problem, then I do these things. You know, that's going to solve it, you know, and it brings that reassurance that, you know, it's solved, you know, but then the reality is, is that there's no, it's not really solving. It's about living. Gabbie: Yeah. Yes. And getting so caught up in certainty as a way of like controlling your life makes your life so small because you really can only have certainty on these tiny little things in your life. Like piling things in threes or whatever it is. So then that takes over your entire life. And it's like, well, wait a minute. That was the whole point of this was so that I could like, live my life in some level of comfort and now it is. All I do is this rule that I've come up. Heather: Which is causing like, you, your anxiety to go up your depression to show up, you know, all these things that end up spiking. And then you have these other thoughts that swirl in, right? Because when you start to overthink about things you can't control. Gabbie: Well, yeah, and again, trying to solve a thinking problem with thinking is always recommended. Heather: Yeah. Gabbie: I, I do have this, um, like current theory, I guess, right now, which I don't know if it's tough love or actually not good, but I'm putting it out into the world. And okay, or maybe it's not that big of a leap regardless. Uh, when my mental health was super bad and I couldn't leave the house, I couldn't leave my room. I couldn't talk to people on the phone. I, you know, it was, it was bad, bad, bad, bad. And all I was trying to do was make my day semi comfortable just to like live through it. And then, um. When I found out, oh, it's uncertainty that I actually have to, like, hold closer to me and being uncomfortable that I have to hold closer to me, it took a minute, but then the exposure therapy brought that in and I felt such relief and it was great. It's such a, a joy. I wonder, oh God, I, I've got so much judgment as to how I'm going to say this, but I wonder if we're not coddling ourselves too much because like in my OCD group, almost everybody has had an experience of traveling and having their OCD take a back seat and them actually enjoying their life more than when they're home. And I'm like, to me, I'm like, oh yeah, because home is familiar and that's where you can have your rules. When you're out and about in France, them's the rules. Heather: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Gabbie: Right? So then I wonder, I'm not saying like, take your teens to those terrible camps that, that people were doing in like the 90's when they were unruly or whatever. Heather: Or, you know, yeah. Gabbie: Yeah. Those kinds of camps. Um, but like maybe us, oh boy, maybe us sort of coddling our loved ones when they're in the midst of this particular kind of mental illness. Is actually enabling. Heather: Yeah. Yeah. And that's a hard one. Um, because, you know, people can be roped into your, um, into your compulsions too. I mean, that's, that's exactly what happened to me with my previous therapist who wasn't an expert or experienced with OCD. And, and I was finding myself cycling through and every time I was done with therapy, I would feel awful. Gabbie: Yeah. Heather: And until now, like, or, you know, until I started, um, with my psychiatrist, my current psychiatrist, um, I started. Realizing, Oh, I'm doing a compulsion. I'm making like, I'm either doing confessions or I'm, you know, like, uh, asking weird questions, you know, uh, or just practicing avoidance. I mean, I literally did it all with her and it was tough because, um, you know, talk therapy works for a lot of people. Um, and, uh, but it didn't work for me and I didn't understand what, um, like solving my problem was, you know, like whether or not, um, I had a problem to solve, um, you know, and, and it just, I don't know. And yeah, I can see that as being, um, a contributor to, um, not progressing. Um, and, and truly it's out of kindness, right? Because you think someone is suffering and you want them to not suffer anymore. Gabbie: Yes. All of my loved ones were so kind to me when I was suffering, and like they did push me a little bit, but it was like, also I would freak out if they tried to push me. Heather: Well, we're not talking about you. Gabbie: No, no, no, no, no. Uh, it's a friend. I have a friend. Heather: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gabbie: But yeah, I had the same experience with talk therapy. Also in talk therapy, they would be like, let's focus on this one thing that you say is a problem. And I would be like, cool. And then. They would think that the problem was solved, and I would be like. That did nothing. Heather: What about this question? Gabbie: Yeah, exactly. Because I have 70 million other questions. Um, yeah. So I guess what we're telling everybody is, you know. Heather: But see, with. Gabbie: Stop sleeping in your bed. Go sleep on the floor of the kitchen and see if that doesn't do something for it. Heather: Well, but so, so are you saying that this particular person, um, is wanting to not do ERP. Um. Gabbie: Oh, I, yeah, I have no idea, honestly. It was just like some ideas that popped up in my head. Um, also with talking to my group about stuff. Heather: Yeah. Gabbie: That is just I'm like, Oh, right. If we're all experiencing less OCD when we. And it wasn't just like, you know, gorgeous vacations. It was like any kind of travel. Heather: Yeah, where you're forced to be more present because you don't know your surroundings. Everything's new. You know, there's different rules and regulations that you're unaware of. And so these things, you know, take you out of your head. Gabbie: Control is. Heather: Yeah. Gabbie: The control is taken away from you on some level. And so I'm like, well, maybe we should take away the control from mentally ill people. And that's a platform I'm running on. Heather: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, for me, I mean, ERP was a really hard one to start with. Um. Gabbie: Right, I remember. Heather: And so I kind of went at it like it's more sideways. And honestly, I do little ERP on my own, like almost every day. I do a little exposure every day. And for me, that is enough to kind of, um, you know, bring me back to a little present minded or I treat something. It's like, Oh, I don't want to do that. And I'm like, well, you know. Yeah. Let's, let's sit with that discomfort, not really think about like exactly what could happen or think about what could happen, you know, right out a little imaginal and you know, what is the worst outcome of that? And then it just kind of loses its power over time, you know, and, but I think it had to do with a bunch of other therapies. put into place for me, you know, it was, you know, doing self compassion, doing Acceptance Commitment Therapy, doing, you know, all this other stuff. And so, um, but again, it was, it's an active participation. Gabbie: Yes. Yes. Heather: In your recovery. You know? Gabbie: Yeah. Whereas talk therapy, to me, always felt like I was just saying words into the ether. And I was supposed to get better, feel better. Heather: Mm hmm. Gabbie: From it. And it just didn't happen. Heather: Yeah. Gabbie: I would say I also do little ERPs. It's, uh, more like OCD has been doing sneak attacks. Heather: It knows. It does that well. Gabbie: Yeah. And then I'm like, if I catch it, then I'm like, no, great, I'm just gonna do the opposite. Thanks so much. And lately it's really been like, I think because of the state of politics or whatever else, it's really been like, hey, listen, you don't touch this doorway and Elon Musk is going to stay in power, right? It's like. Okay. Heather: Yeah. Gabbie: Part of me wishes that were true, that I did have that amount of power, like I feel so powerless in the current, you know, state of things that part of me is like, yeah, what's the, what's the, if it does, and then I'm like, no, no, that's how you were thinking before. That's what landed you into this mess. You know, okay, I also want to talk about comedy. Heather: Let's talk comedy. Let's, let's, you know, this is a great transition. Gabbie: Seamless. Heather: Yeah. Yeah. You feel powerless. Let's talk comedy. Gabbie: Yup. Nothing makes one feel funnier than powerlessness. I don't know if that's true. But you and I were talking about, um, not telling people that we were in comedy or trying to do comedy because it comes to some, just. It's like the most ridiculous. Heather: It's like, be funny. Tell me a joke. Gabbie: Tell me a joke. Or, or even, uh, people have said like, send me a, a sketch. And I'm like, or they said send me a skit. And I'm like, okay, first of all, sketch. Second of all, no. Heather: Yeah. Yeah. Or they'll talk about their, um, memoir or their, um, screenplay that they've been working on for 30 years. Um, which is, you know, more power to them, you know, it's like if they're writing something, um, go for it. Gabbie: Sure, but if it's your optometrist doing this to you during your appointment. Heather: Yeah, which actually happened. Uh, yeah, an optometrist I didn't go, like, usually go to, I got a Um, their partner, um, did my, uh, treatment and that was a fascinating experience. I don't know. I, I don't know how, I don't know if I want to divulge too much about it, but it's, it's one of those things where it was like, um, can we get to the eye appointment? Gabbie: Yes. Heather: Um. Gabbie: I think the appropriateness of the timing and the setting was. not there from the professional standpoint. Heather: Very true. I mean, I did have a good appointment with somebody that was curious about our podcast when I told I was at a dermatologist getting a mole removed and she literally removed my mole and asked me questions and she was genuinely interested and you know, that actually made me feel good, you know. You know, it wasn't like, you know, she was trying to sell me on something. She was just, whoop, mole came off. Great. You're doing a podcast. Gabbie: Which is cool. Heather: Yeah. Gabbie: Usually like the majority of the interactions are like, Oh, that's so cool. Where do you perform or something like that? Which is. Awesome. But yeah, definitely the ones that are like, send me a written sketch. I'm like, send me your ID. What are we doing? Heather: Aren't we on a date? This isn't like an interview. Gabbie: And also like, if you can't tell I'm funny right now. Then we should stop this date regardless. Heather: Yeah. This was the interview for the date. You have failed the interview. I'm sorry. Goodbye. Gabbie: But go ahead and grab some candy on your way out. Because I do keep a candy dish even when I go to restaurants. Heather: Just like little hard candies. Gabbie: Yeah, little hard candies. Those little like wrap up strawberry ones. Heather: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gabbie: The gushy center. Heather: Yeah. Oh, you have good hard candy. Gabbie: Thank you. I try and, you know, do unto others as a little gushy hard candy. Does to your pre diabedia? That's not a I'm a medical professional. I wouldn't worry about it. Anyway, how's comedy going, Heather? Heather: Um, comedy hasn't been going as much as I would like, but I have been thinking about, um, starting projects, um, and, um, and doing, uh, comedy in small steps. Um, I think, I don't know if I said this last time we met, like for a recording, um, like back in episode 25, like 400 years ago. Um, but I have been thinking about how to do small steps, um, to do multiple projects at once. Um, but, um, being able to focus in these small ways of like just getting progress done. Um, because I think what happens to me is I get overwhelmed. by the whole thing and, and it's as if I jump into the middle and then just kind of go, I can't do this. Um, and then never finish, um, which always disappoints me at the end. Um, and so I feel like I need to, um, get into small projects. I have been contemplating, um, And I know I said before that I didn't want to take classes, but I was more like, um, thinking about intentionally taking a class, um, to help, um, facilitate like meeting people and, um, and then, uh, working on, um, and being more intentional with a project that I want to start rather than just kind of coming at it with nothing. But I haven't officially decided what that class is. Um, so, um, yeah. And whether or not I want to take it, you know, it's like, it's more like if I find like something, it's like, Oh, that's cool. I want to collaborate on that. Then, you know, take the initiative to kind of participate in that. Or if taking a class, like if something just sounds interesting, like, you know, um, there's somebody that we follow, um, uh, that she has some great classes. That's called Writing is Bananas, and she has some really great screenwriting classes that are female focused. I've taken a few classes with her before, and she's a really great teacher, and so I was thinking about a few of her classes. But again, I'm just like, am I looking for the class to take to actually work on a project, or is this like going to be Um, kind of like a crutch to like not progress on the things that I've been thinking about. And so I think I need to stop thinking and just shout out to her if you're actually looking for a writing class. She is a great person and I'll link, um, her information, um, to the podcast. But I think, um, for myself, I need to figure out. I maybe I don't need to figure it out. Maybe I just maybe I just need to set up a time and just do something. Just throw it at the wall and then see what happens. But not be abusive about it, but also not coddling myself and steep and overthinking. Gabbie: Mm hmm. Heather: Sorry, you just entered my brain for a second. Oh, I know, I know, I know, uh, because I am, um, as I've been called over and over again by my psychiatrist, a classic overthinker. Um, I'm good at it. Um. It is, um, I am a champion at overthinking. Uh, yeah. Gabbie: LA Olympics. It is. You and me, man. Heather: Truly. Yes. Gabbie: I pity the fool that comes up against us. We will overthink them to dust. Heather: Yes, we will. And, uh, we, there will be a special medal for us. Um, it will not be gold, it will be platinum. Um, we will get the platinum in overthinking every single time. Yeah. So. Gabbie: If we can make it out of, like, the. the warm up room, having not overthought ourselves into paralysis. Heather: Yes, yes. But technically that is. Gabbie: That's true. I just don't know when, it's been a while since we've been to the Olympics. Heather: Since we've gone to the overthinking gym. Gabbie: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Although been working out on our own, like we're getting paid for it. Heather: Yeah. Could you imagine that space full of people just sitting there? Gabbie: Yeah, a thousand percent. Just all staring off at a wall slash ceiling with like various, you know, expressions of kind of like upset. Heather: Yeah. Gabbie: And uh. Heather: You'll hear like, um, it'll be pretty much silent in there, except for a few, uhg, or sighs, like, hhhh. Gabbie: Yeah. Yeah. Heather: Disappointment or yeah. Gabbie: Um, I think the class is a good idea. I also have like in my head thought about like, like I've never taken a pilot class. Because I'm like, I want to come to the class with an idea already so that I don't spend time like thinking about what a good idea might be or not, or blah, blah, blah. I just want to have something that I want to work at so that the class is like useful as opposed to starting yet another project that I'm going to feel bad about not completing. Heather: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that, and that's, yeah, that's my, um, I feel like that's my next approach if I did take a class is, is that. Is, is needing to come to the table with an idea, because I think, um, the kind of paralysis that we get from overthinking an idea rather than just throwing something at the wall is, you know, is challenging because I feel like, I don't know, maybe, you know, maybe throwing something at the wall is interesting, but, you know, it's one of those things where it's like, Oh, this isn't working. I don't like this. And then all you're thinking about is that other idea, you know. And so. Gabbie: Yeah, and also the fact that you do not like the idea that you're currently working on. But at the same time, I'm with you. It's like, is there going to be some, because I keep thinking that there's going to be like a flash of creativity that's going to hit me and I'm just going to like not even be able to leave the apartment. I just have to get it all down on paper. You know what I mean? And it's like, oh, that's right. I don't do cocaine. So that's probably not going to happen. Heather: Or showers. That's where I get most of my ideas. Is washing my hair and going, Oh, that is how I'm going to get those two characters to interact with each other. Or, you know, this is where the fight starts. And then I'll shout at my husband, Write this down! Gabbie: The creative process is nothing if not smooth and easy. Heather: And get people involved. You know? Yeah. Gabbie: Yeah. By force. Heather: You know, have someone sitting at a whiteboard. Yeah. Gabbie: You there. Write this down. Heather: Yeah. Gabbie: I don't know you. Well, you do now. I have the idea of a century. Heather: Yeah. You know, an idea would be waterproof, um, post it notes. Gabbie: That is a good idea. I don't necessarily think that we need to go to the Sharks in, in store and vending products, but fuck it, put it on the list, you know? Heather: Yeah, yeah, I, I, I invented it. Gabbie: It's done. Heather: It's the Waterproof Post-it Note. Gabbie: Probably NASA. Heather: Although, you know, 3M owns, you know. Post it, right? Gabbie: They do. Heather: Does 3M own post its? Gabbie: I'm sure they do. Heather: So I'll call it Post Em. Gabbie: And they'll never know. Heather: They'll never know. Um. They won't hear this podcast, um, I'll be a millionaire, which is not very rich in this country anymore. And. Gabbie: Man, seriously. Uh, yeah, so speaking of, my comedy journey currently is, um, kind of impeded on my needing to make rent. What? Um, so I have been focused on, um, building out my tutoring business. Awesomesaucetutor.com. That's right people. It's all. Heather: Also going to be plugged on our podcast, um, website too. Gabbie: Um, yeah, that I actually need to tutor in order to make money in that business. It's just, I don't know, I've been willing, I, I have been making friends with my local crows by giving them walnuts, but they have not been paying me money. So I do need some other income streams and I'm working on it. And so like me wanting to go and do comedy. It just feels like it's always on the backburner and in particular now because I'm like, I still like to have a roof over my head. So um, but I do want to start my other podcast, a comedy podcast, and I do want to get on stage and the overthinking part is what reminded me of it. The overthinking part is a huge chunk of it. Cause I'm like. Heather: Oh, yeah. Gabbie: I need to have a tight 5 before I get on any open mic stage. Meanwhile, there are 20 year olds who just get up there and are like Yo, I have a fleshlight now and you're like, nobody cares, honestly. Heather: Yeah. Yeah. I think, um, okay, you're funny too, like naturally, so, um, you know, yeah. So just get up on stage, dude. Gabbie: I know. Seriously. I just need to find a stage, get up there, have a mic and just go. I'm funny. Heather: Uh huh. Gabbie: And then stare at the audience. Heather: That's how every comedian starts their set, is to announce how funny they are. Gabbie: And then I wait for them to scream, tell us a joke, show us a sketch, and then I launch into it. Heather: Or you could launch the other way and go, I don't have to show you a thing. I'm funny. Gabbie: I get up there. I'm extremely combative. Nobody has any idea who I am or what I'm about. And already off the bat, nobody likes each other. And then from there, it's easy. Heather: Mm hmm. Millions of dollars. Gabbie: Millions. Where are those crows? Um, okay, the other things that we should talk about is, uh, Angie's episode is coming up. Heather: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Next episode. Episode 27. Um, Angie Hawkins. Um, she's a writer. Um, she discusses her memoir, talks about anxiety and grief and, um, making big moves. So, um, yeah. Next time. Gabbie: Which is so admirable. It's like the fact that, I don't know. We both hate Elon Musk. We both hate Trump, but if we could just have just that soupçon of like. Heather: Yeah. Gabbie: Undeserved self motivation. I don't know what it is. Like, yeah, just the lack of thought process that is the world deserves to hear my nonsense. You know. Heather: Exactly. Yeah, making. Yeah, hearing our voices. Um, instead of having to shout the voices out and carry a chainsaw around, um, on stage. Gabbie: Oh, I hate that man. I hate him so much. Yeah. So, um, this is Make America Hear My Voice. I'm Funny Again is the name of my comedy show. Heather: Yes. Your comedy special. That will be on Netflix in 2026. Gabbie: It's gonna be on Nickflux. Um. Heather: Oh, Nickflux. Gabbie: It didn't make it to Netflix. Heather: Yes. Ah. Yes. Yeah. Gabbie: Nickflux is um, it's a warehouse. Nobody's there. But I will be doing comedy with the crows. Heather: Mmhmm. Internet works sometimes. Gabbie: Exactly. And if I show up as a dead body someplace, you'll know why, I was antagonizing the warehouse. Heather: And not the crows. Gabbie: Well, they're my friends. They get it. Heather: Yes. Gabbie: They understand sarcasm coming from a woman. You know what I mean? Heather: Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Gabbie: So. Heather: Yeah, the crows get it. The crows get it. Gabbie: And that is also the other t shirt. It just says, the crows get it. Heather: Mm hmm. Gabbie: And people will know what that means. Heather: Or, or be confused? Gabbie: Well? Heather: Cause it could allude to being sexual too, you know. Gabbie: I hope. It's not alluding to anything. It is. And that's the, the only fans is just crows doing it. I don't know what that looks like. Now I'm overthinking what does crows doing it look like. Do I need to look that up on the internet? No. No. No. No. Heather: You're gonna search it on the internet. Crows doing it. Gabbie: Uh. Heather: And that's the new website, crowsdoingit.com. Gabbie: Crows Doing It. Uh, if that's not already taken. Heather: .Org! Gabbie: What? Heather: .Org. Gabbie: .Biz! Heather: Yeah. Gabbie: Because they're giving each other the bizness. Heather: The bizness. Yes. I like that. I like that. Yeah. Gabbie: Well, honestly, I think this is a great first episode back. It was, we talked about OCD. We talked about comedy. Check. Check. Heather: Mm hmm. We talked about crows doing it. Gabbie: Which is never going to stop making me happy. We've upgraded the merch table from nothing to still nothing. Uh, and we actually are gonna be on YouTube and YouTube music, which is cool. Heather: Yeah, we were on YouTube, we just literally had nothing on it. Gabbie: Just like the merch table. If you want it, go fuck yourself. And that's, yeah. That's how we built our business. Heather: And that's the end of the pod. Gabbie: Alright everybody. Heather: Yeah. Goodbye. Bye. Gabbie: Thank you. Bye. Heather: Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Gabbie: Bye. Bye. BBBBBBB. [🎵 Outro Music] Gabbie: Welcome to the end of the show. This is Gabbie Blachman. Heather: And this is Heather Nye. Gabbie: Thank you for listening to Comically Exposed. We're just a little show with two creators who edit and produce each episode. We appreciate all your support. Heather: If you like what you heard, Instagram at comicallyexp. podcast. That's C O M I C A L L Y E X P dot podcast. Gabbie: Oh, and check out our website at comicallyexposed. com. That's one word, comicallyexposed. com. 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