Episode 7
Comically ExposedNovember 29, 202300:27:50

Episode 7

Not necessarily death at the moment. Gabbie works on another podcast and Heather writes humor. We discuss San Francisco Sketchfest, perceived failures and rejection. Also, thoughts on future projects.

Therapy acronyms mentioned:

  • SUDS - Subjective Units of Distress Scale
  • RSD - Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria
  • TMS - Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation

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Transcript:

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Okay, welcome to Comically Exposed, Episode 7. I am Heather.

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And I'm Gabbie.

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And I am introducing us for the third time. And still having a reaction to it, which is

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my exposure for this podcast.

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Yeah, we talked about it just before we started. And Heather realized that doing the announcements

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is a sort of exposure and that she didn't really want to do it, which always means,

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gotta do it.

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And I think you did a great job. So how you feeling? Where's your anxiety on the old

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sud scale, 1 to 10?

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I think I'm close to an 8.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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I had no idea it was that high.

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Yeah, it kind of freaks me out.

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Okay. Well, you mask a little too effectively, I must say.

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I do very well. Thank you for noticing.

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It's like me complimenting your self-criticism. Do you know what I mean? It's like not something

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that you should be proud of necessarily.

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It's amazing. Thank you. I'm so good at masking. This is not making me feel like I'm gonna

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roll over and die any second or some number of things that are going to happen or disassociating

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or...

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Yeah. Oh yeah. Stay grounded. Stay grounded. Where are your feet?

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My feet are touching the thing that's holding my feet up because I cannot touch the floor.

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Already off to a really good start. But honestly, so for people who don't know what the sud

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scale is, it's the anxiety scale that you rate yourself on. I think we talked about

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it on some episode, but it either goes from 1 to 10 or some people do 1 to 100. And the

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exposure is supposed to raise up your anxiety and then you're supposed to sit with it while

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your anxiety comes back down. So Heather, it's been 20 seconds. Where's your anxiety

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at?

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Well now that I'm distancing from it, it feels like it's lowering. Not as rapidly, but it

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feels like it's getting closer to six or five.

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Cool.

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I still feel something in my stomach, like something bad's going to happen.

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That's just life. That's what that is.

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But it doesn't feel like it's necessarily death at the moment.

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So that's good. We'll take that. Not necessarily death at the moment. That is also the name

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of our podcast.

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Well, we haven't seen or talked to each other for a minute, except before the podcast where

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we talked for quite a bit and did not record any of it. You're welcome.

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Yeah. You didn't want to hear us testing our mics.

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No, although it was, I would say we should get the Nobel Peace Prize for how amazing that

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went.

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Yeah, riveting material.

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Completely. Who doesn't love a good mic test?

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Oh yeah, the reason I brought up that we haven't seen each other for a while is because I thought

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we might be able to talk about a mutual goal, which was getting into SketchFest 2024. I

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think the day after we recorded last week, we finally got the email and we did not get

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into SketchFest.

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Yeah. Uh-huh.

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Yep.

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So how do you feel about it?

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I'm disappointed because I was really excited about making something with you and Susan.

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Not to say that we can't still do it. Screw them.

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I feel the exact same way. It was going to be a great excuse for all three of us to actually

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be in person and hang out. It was going to give us deadlines to really write sketches

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and then film or rehearse or whatever, get props together. Yeah, just make real the stuff

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that we've just been talking about over the past two years. Yeah, so I am also disappointed.

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And I also have a lot of questions. I know that in the email that we received, they did

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say that they got a record number of submissions. And so, you know, that's why they didn't even,

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they had to push back the date on when they were going to tell people whether they got

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into the festival because they got so many submissions. And that's great. Good for them.

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But also, I find it kind of disappointing and also annoying because I was in SketchFest

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the year before and I think our group is funnier. And I was really excited for the stuff that

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we were putting together. And so, I'm just kind of like, well, what happened? Because,

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what? And if that's not careful analysis, I don't know what is.

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That's exactly how I felt. And then on top of that, I was just thinking, like, if we

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did want to do stuff together, we could still do it, whether or not it's sketch or something

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else. But I think it's good to kind of expose perceived failures because it's not really

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a failure. I mean, it is and it isn't because we did put ourselves out there. We did make

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a reel. We did do all the paperwork. I don't know. And we did get to meet weekly. So, it

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was nice to be able to see all of your faces and just kind of just be silly with each other.

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Yeah, I completely agree with that. I'm excited for us to figure out how we take... Our group

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is called Knot Sisters, K-N-O-T, if you're looking us up on Instagram or the other things.

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But I'm interested to see like where we can take Knot Sisters, what else we can do with

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it, you know, other festivals, that kind of thing or whatever we want to do, which is

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great. And I'd love for us to talk a little bit about the perceived failures because I

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am definitely in that place right now. I mean, having also been rejected from the podcast,

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the late night TV show podcast, it just feels like I just got rejection after rejection,

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even though it's only two. Yeah. But as we talk about putting ourselves out there is

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very difficult. And so, it feels like I exposed myself and the world said, no, thank you.

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And on top of that, I listened to the most recent episode of that other podcast and it

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is just as terrible as it has always been, if not worse. I found myself like yelling

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at my phone and then just I had to turn it off. So... Maybe it was a good thing that

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you... Yeah. You might've been more frustrated. So, I found out this thing that comes with

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ADHD, which is called RSD, who doesn't love a bajillion acronyms, and it's rejection sensitivity

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disorder, right? And first of all, I'm like, doesn't everybody have that? Like who's out

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here being like, oh, joy, I was rejected again. Gosh, it makes me such a strong individual

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and I'm just going to get up tomorrow and attack the day. But instead it's like, oh,

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this feels like a real read on who I am at the core, right? And it's my fears of being

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a worthless person, right? Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm glad I get to share the rejection with

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two other people, you and Susan, so that I can at least tell myself.

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Well, it wasn't me. I'm just kidding. Yeah. I mean, rejection is very... I mean, it is

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relatable outside of the disorder and it can feel painful. Yeah. Not wanted, not good enough,

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all the nots and so, not sisters. That's it. There it is. It's how you move on and what

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you take for... Like whether or not you take it in, I guess. I mean, I don't really have

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a good feeling about it because it still feels a little bit raw. Yeah. You know?

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Well, I like that I was made it as just dropped it on you for the podcast and was like, let's

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talk about this. This feels painful and new. One exposure after another. That's right.

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Yeah. Where's your suds at now? Where are you at? Yeah. Well, there's not so much anxiety

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around it. I mean, I think at first there may have been a little bit of embarrassment,

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but I think now it's just more about disappointment. Yeah. Yeah. It's been a week now and or a

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little over a week. It's just feeling just slightly disappointing. Yeah. Yeah. It's motivation

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sometimes for me though to figure out what I'm going to do next. And so Gabbie, what else

00:10:18
new is happening with you? Thank you so much for asking. Well, before I get into all of

00:10:24
the things that I said I was going to do last time, I do want to say that I started TMS,

00:10:32
cranial magnetic stimulation for the depression. Although now we just started doing bilateral,

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which means both hemispheres of my brain are being stimulated, which means not only is

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the depression hopefully going to be alleviated, but also being overall anxiety is hopefully

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going to be dampened. I don't know. So while I'm very excited about that, it is five days

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a week at 8 a.m. and I forgot because the last times I did TMS was like five years ago,

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I forgot how exhausting it is and it's not the process itself. Like literally I'm just

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watching stand-up specials and having these tiny little zaps on the top of my head, but

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it is, I don't know, there's like a physical body exhaustion that is just, I'm two weeks

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in and usually treatments are five to six weeks. So this weekend I'm really going to

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rest, but if I am not just so quick and funny today, I'm going to blame it on that. Woohoo.

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Yeah, woohoo.

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Exactly. So on that note, okay, so we talked about sketch vests. I have no update on whether

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or not I got into mortified, although based on this current trend and then you and I-

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Instant rejection.

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Yeah, exactly. This is why I usually reject the whole process first before I can be rejected.

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So much safer that way in this little tiny box, but truncated life. But you sent me a

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really cool graphic for my Bat Shat Roommate podcast, which I really love. And then we

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got to talk a little bit more about that, the aesthetics of the podcast and all of that.

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So I'm getting more and more excited. I did have a reunion this past weekend for a summer

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camp that I grew up at and then worked at. And what I meant to do at the reunion was

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ask people to be on the podcast. Because just the fact that we all worked at this summer

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camp, I know that we all had Bat Shat roommates because it's just like, I mean, you're 20

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something and that's the way it is. But I did not ask people. So I had a good time instead.

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I enjoyed talking to people. So I guess that's a success.

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That you weren't working the room, trying to pitch people.

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Passing out business cards.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I was just going to be like, hey, have you thought about podcasts? No. So I guess that'll

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be the next things. But anyway, so that's what I did over the past couple of weeks.

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What about you, dear friend Heather?

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I have been working on humor pieces, mainly because I am taking a class currently with

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Luke Burns and just been really into it. It's a different style of writing. I'm constantly

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fighting myself to not make it a story, which I think is a good exercise in just focusing

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on the joke rather than the whole story arc. But it is getting me excited to write stories

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more, which is also the weird counteraction that's happening right now. And it's just

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funny what writing can do, like any kind of writing can do to motivate you to see things.

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But I am not jumping ship from the humor. I'm really trying hard to focus on that. And

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taking on projects like helping you out with a graphic for your podcast.

00:14:33
Thank you so, so, so much.

00:14:36
You're welcome. As another way to find an outlet for creativity. And it's been, I don't

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know, for me, it's been kind of enlightening, like kind of fun and I don't know, exciting

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to get things started and do things new. And hopefully that's being presented to what I'm

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doing. It's at least exciting to me. Whoever else thinks it's exciting then or funny or

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interesting or whatever is, you know, just a bonus. So yeah.

00:15:07
That's awesome. So do you have any stories that are percolating?

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I'm coming up with a new podcast that is more scripted, improvised slash scripted. And so

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I'm playing with this idea that I just got yesterday and I won't divulge too much because

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I'm like, I don't want to sell the idea just yet to myself.

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You don't want to lock into anything right now.

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Yeah. Cause I'm still trying to figure it out and, but I'm really excited about it.

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So it's something I want to produce and put out in the world. And so that's kind of where

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I am at the moment.

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So cool.

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Yeah. I'm excited about it. Also, I wanted to do something scripted or, you know, kind

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of in that fictional world to kind of build a world. And I just, I think I'm missing that

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at the moment.

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Yeah. But different from doubt it because I feel like doubt it has some real personal

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themes.

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Yeah. Doubt it's a little bit.

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That make it a little more tough to be like, oh joy, I'm going to work on this thing that

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brings up feelings. I don't know. I could be projecting.

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Yeah, no, I think I want to work on both one, you know, I really want the doubt it script

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to be done. I think that it'd be really good show, especially for those who don't understand

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OCD to kind of be in a person's head, at least with something with a similar OCD to me. And

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it is relatable partially. It's the disordered part that becomes, you know, expressed more.

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And I think it's important because representation is important to our very misunderstood diagnosis

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and disorder. So it's, it's, I think I've said this before, it's hard to explain. And

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so I want to show people, or at least I've been toying with the idea of whether or not

00:17:04
it's an audio story or if it's a visual story. Yeah. And so that that's actually part of

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the hesitation because one, I know I can produce something pretty easily. Not easily. I say

00:17:21
easily, but it's not easily. I could produce something more excessively with audio, right?

00:17:28
There's some visual components to it that I'm really wanting to make just audio, if

00:17:35
that makes sense. Oh, totally. Yeah. Yeah. And that's such an interesting part of the

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creative process to not to generalize, but it's like you start writing something and

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you're like, Oh, this is a is a stand up, you know, bit and then you're like, No, no,

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that's a sketch. No, it's definitely not a sketch. This is like a humor piece or no,

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it's definitely not because it needs the visuals. Okay. Okay. I think a short cartoon would

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really work, you know? Yeah. Cool. Well, and I'm, and I'm also being flexible with my method

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because not just because of limitations, but also because just being able to play in those

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different kind of mediums, you know, is kind of interesting to me, at least for right now.

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The world is big when you're starting out. So that's kind of, I don't know. I don't want

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to limit myself in my playground. Yeah. No playground limiting here. So that's, that's

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where I am at with something new, but I want to get through my humor classes. So I'm, I'm

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trying to write notes to myself in terms of what I want to do and then, but put focus

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back on to the work in front of me. So good. Great. Yeah. I think you're doing great. I

00:19:01
don't know why that made me laugh. It's been, it's maybe the nerves, you know, it's like,

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I'm doing great. Am I doing great? I don't know. I can't say for myself if I'm doing

00:19:18
great, that's up to other people to judge and decide. Yeah. But then the short answer

00:19:23
is sure. That part, that part. Okay. Well, I think that brings us to, what do you want

00:19:32
to do in the next couple of weeks? So what do you? Yeah. Thank you for asking. Fully

00:19:39
organically. Yes. Yes. And not scripted at all. Not at all. I think right now, I think

00:19:46
this week, my main focus is the humor pieces and to finish them. I have, no, I have finished

00:19:53
ones. I just have to edit them and the editing process is, I don't know. I mean, there's

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no feelings attached to the editing process. It kind of feels like a natural part of the

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next step to kind of reiterate. It's just, I don't want to reiterate too many times.

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Sure. Because that could lead to something else like perfectionism and other things like

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that. So I'm allowing it to be messy and be what it is. And our mutual goal of working

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on the graphic and announcement or promo, hopefully will come out in the next few weeks

00:20:31
so that you can get your podcast going. Yes. Yes for a bash it. Yep. Yep. Yep. I've only

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been talking about it for seriously 10 years. So, you know, I don't know that it's time

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yet, probably another decade under my belt and then I'll get around to it. But I'm with

00:20:51
you. I think that's so legit. So what are you going to work on? Oh, no, no, no, no.

00:20:57
I was going to say that something I think you've said before is that you really enjoy

00:21:02
the editing process, like with your writing and stuff, which is fascinating to me because

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I am just like, oh dear God, I have to look at this thing again and now I have to make

00:21:14
decisions and this is all too much. But I can see how it potentially could lead to perfectionism.

00:21:19
Yeah. But I also think it is a stage of your creative process that brings you joy. Yeah.

00:21:26
That's awesome. Yeah. I like to fix a mess. No, I mean, I like. And that's why we're working

00:21:36
together. I get it. I know my place. No, no, no, no. I like, I guess. So putting it all

00:21:46
out there feels very vulnerable. Like when you're doing the first draft, it feels like

00:21:51
it's so messy. It's so like can be disgusting. Like, oh my God, that's nonsensical. Like,

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I don't understand. Like, like, why did I think that was interesting or whatever? And

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I'm like totally judgmental. But the editing process, for some odd reason, I can pull myself

00:22:10
out of it a little bit more and then looking at it for what it is. I don't know why that's

00:22:18
different for me. And the problem is, is that because I don't finish some things in terms

00:22:24
of the first draft, it's almost like I don't want to finish the first draft. I just want

00:22:29
to start editing. Whoa. Yeah. And so. Fascinating. Yeah. And I think that's why my beginnings

00:22:36
are always so tight because I'm just like, I'm just ready to rewrite it. I mean, right

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now I am fighting myself to edit, doubt it. I have had little conversations with myself

00:22:51
to not like get into it and edit the first, the beginning. Cause I already have notes

00:22:56
for myself in terms of what I want to change. And then I'm trying to convince myself that

00:23:01
it's going to change the entire story. But the truth is it's not. It's just a better

00:23:06
joke. It's a tighter, you know, movement through the cold open. That's just what it is. But

00:23:11
no, I just need to get, I just need to get through it and need to finish it. Yeah. That

00:23:16
part. That is the part of the process that is. I don't know if that came across, but

00:23:26
the slog part, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, okay. So speaking of slogs, there are

00:23:34
three goals that I want going forward. I've been talking about it, but I actually want

00:23:40
to sit down and look at my calendar and pick a date for a table read or one of my spec

00:23:45
scripts. I want to finish this sketch that I started writing in time for our sketch group

00:23:50
on Sunday. And I think I want to give, I recorded an initial batshit roommate with my sister,

00:23:59
but we were in the same room and now you and I use a squad cast to record our podcast.

00:24:05
And so I'm going to see if I can use it with my sister and see if her sound is okay without

00:24:12
a fancy mic or whatever. And then, you know, maybe have that be the first episode and it's

00:24:18
going to be so good that I will finally get the aforementioned peace prize as well as,

00:24:24
you know, people are going to be clamoring to be on that podcast. Yeah. So, you know,

00:24:29
goals, easily achievable. Yeah. Yeah. So do you need baby steps in that one too? Or are

00:24:43
you just feeling? For the squad cast one? Yeah. Nah, I think I just need to text my

00:24:49
sister and see, because luckily for me, it's getting dark sooner, which means she finishes

00:24:56
farming sooner, which means she has enough like energy at the end of the day that I can

00:25:01
be like, Hey buddy, congratulations. You're going to be on my podcast. Who doesn't want

00:25:12
to work like a full day from sunrise to sunset and then be harangued by the older sister

00:25:18
to do something. I mean, that's our job. That's right. As older siblings. That's right. Yeah.

00:25:26
It's a tough job, but you know, obviously we have to do it because yes. Yes. I mean,

00:25:32
that's the new name of our podcast. What? Obviously we have to do it. Yeah. Obviously

00:25:37
we have to do it or the older ones. The older ones. Perfect. Is a hundred percent the branding

00:25:45
that I am going for this next decade. Yes. Yeah. So those are my things. I feel like

00:25:51
I'm really tired. I heard he talked about that. I'm still really tired. So I'm hoping

00:25:57
these are okay things to accomplish. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds I think it sounds great. Thank

00:26:03
you Heather. All right. Should we tell the people to go after themselves? Yeah. Close

00:26:12
out the podcast. Yeah. Yes. Kind people that have continued to listen to the end. Thank

00:26:19
you for listening everyone. Yeah. And yeah, have a good day. Yeah. Have a good day. Goodbye.

00:26:28
Goodbye. Welcome to the end of the show. This is Gabbie Blachman and this is Heather Nye.

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